> I would be in favor of keeping R 
>
> Since I might not have been clear on this. I'm +1 on keeping R, even 
> though it is not up to date. It's in my eyes very good, that "%r" and 
> "R worksheet mode" work out of the box. 
>
>
I am constantly encountering this in discussions with other users. 
 ask.sagemath has many questions about it, I love that the Sage cell 
supports it (there was a fascinating blog post about embedding R a year or 
so ago), ... it would be very, very unfortunate if we were to drop support 
for this.  Even given the annoyance, this is a foundational piece of Sage 
because it provides huge functionality that we don't have.   The comparison 
with Octave is not as relevant, because we have most (all?) of the 
functionality of Octave with built-ins or Numpy et al., and secondly 
because we have supported this for a long time and users would consider it 
a significant regression.  After all, optional packages are even less 
likely to be updated than standard ones.

(Which, inter alia, I have been able to use in research because Sage could 
compute some stuff more easily than R, but R was the *only* source for a 
specific algorithm I needed to use on the things I computed.)

 

> OT: 
> There are (additionally to R, not as a replacement), more and more 
> libraries in the Python ecosystem which cover R tasks: pandas, 
> statsmodels, scikit-learn, ... 
> I could envision to have an experimental/optional spkg, that collects 
> all of them. It could be named something like "statistics..." or 
> "data-analysis...." and installs all of them. 
>
>
That is a very good idea, though I guess one could also use the sage 
-ipython line to install them via pip or something, right?

- kcrisman

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