>
> > What is the argument for removing the tour? I have seen absolutely no
> > arguments at for removing it, except maybe "the first section of that 
> manual
> > is also named "A guided tour".' That's not a compelling argument. A
> > piece of our documentation has a target audience (or audience) and a goal
> > about what it should accomplish for them. The tour presumably has as a
> > target audience people who want to learn something about sage, probably
> > interactively, in about 10 minutes. And it's aimed at people who have
> > never used Sage before.
>
>
I don't myself know what the target audience is for that document.  The 
reason that this would even come up, from my point of view, is the comment 
I mentioned before at http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/7192#comment:26 
<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Ftrac.sagemath.org%2Fticket%2F7192&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGxjUdZdK5plZnlCDxNu37vUvUnDA>
 (not 
my comment) that this document shouldn't exist:

"Moreover I am not sure if it is a good idea to include this code. It looks 
like a copy of the mathematica book, so it could be seen as a copyright 
infringement."
"Well, in fact I think that the en, de, fr versions should also be deleted. 
Moreover, the copy is incomplete and I think that it does not apport 
anything to the newby with respect to the other documentation."
 

> Please William, do not be so defensive.
>

I don't think that was the intent, just that he didn't get why it should be 
removed.  I think there are good arguments to remove it (mainly that it's 
not particularly useful, or wouldn't have been to me as a newbie) but also 
keeping it in as a "Five-minute intro" seems quite reasonable.

In any case I'm sorry I got this going, because Nathann's original idea was 
just whether this should be removed or possibly moved to a more sensible 
(not top-level) location.

I agree that the document seems partial; the Hungarian translation I think 
was one that almost didn't happen because of that objection.

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