On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 9:17 AM, Francesco Biscani <[email protected]> wrote: > I am not a Mathematica user, so I cannot really comment about Mathematica's > flaws > > (Incidentally, I remember some years ago someone built a system to feed > random input to CASes, with which he found many mathematical bugs in the big > Ms. I wonder if he's still doing it?) >
That's [email protected], who is subscribed to this list, often posts about Ukraine-related issues here, and has spoken at Sage Days in the past. I really apprecaite that he put hard work into showing that these black boxes shouldn't be trusted. William > But the fact that it is a black box should be a showstopper for any serious > use in research. > > On 26 January 2016 at 22:05, rjf <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I think it is somewhat disheartening to see Mathematica accepted as >> a program whose major or only flaw is that it is not open source. >> >> But maybe I didn't read all the comments. It seems that the >> ycombinator contributors tend to rattle on a while. >> RjF >> >> On Wednesday, January 20, 2016 at 5:49:13 AM UTC-8, bluescarni wrote: >>> >>> It's somewhat refreshing to see that the idea that one should not use >>> black box software in science is finally starting to sink in. >>> >>> On 20 January 2016 at 13:30, William Stein <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> There's a big thread on Hacker News about math software in which Sage >>>> is mentioned a few times: >>>> >>>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10934666 >>>> >>>> I have the impression very few of the comments are from >>>> mathematicians... Nonetheless, some people may find the comments >>>> interesting, since they reflect how open source math and scientific >>>> software such as Sage/Python/Sympy/Octave are (mis-)perceived by one >>>> group of potential users. >>>> >>>> -- William >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "sage-devel" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "sage-devel" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- William (http://wstein.org) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
