On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:55 AM, Dima Pasechnik <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Friday, March 18, 2016 at 3:06:04 PM UTC, William wrote: >> >> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 7:59 AM, Volker Braun <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I've had people at workshops trying to compile Sage (never mind using >> > binaries) and they were SOL because their system bash was linked against >> > the >> > wrong version of some library. If you can't compile it you surely can't >> > use >> > it 6 times. >> >> David Roe had no trouble compiling Sage. It's wasteful to have to do >> it many times repeatedly. > > > yet, David does not want to spend a bit of his time helping general Sage > development. > (we talk about perhaps 10 lines of code to change timestamps > in the right place, where the most time would go to navigating to the right > place...) > > This is fine. But then he has 0 right to request enhancements from > volunteers, and you should not
He and everybody have every right to *request* help on this and any other issue. For example, I made a concrete suggestion as to a hack that might help. Any specific volunteer, such as you, can ignore said requests. David's contributed over 10K lines of code to Sage, much of which we all use; even if he had contributed 0 lines, I would still want to know what his "requests for enhancements" are. > have any pity on him for him having to read some new docs and spend extra > CPU cycles because > of a very, very rare in practice case of use for Sage. > (actually, as Volker points out, a case that might not work in practice, as > the server he's using is not powerful > enough for 6 teams of people hacking on Sage at the same time...) The question is simply the question he asked, which is a legitimate question about how to do things more efficiently. Efficiency is good. >> Sage is getting more and more unwieldy. I fear for its survival. > > > if the best Sage devs like you don't want to make their hands dirty and work > on the core Sage, including > build system, packages, etc, it might start to collapse indeed. Saying people have "0 right to request enhancements" is definitely not the answer. Also there is somebody now being paid to work on Sage's build system/packaging by OpenDreamKit, right? I'm sure he is interested in hearing about David's issues... And in my utopian vision of the future, there might be other people supported to work fulltime on core Sage development. It's possible. And then having listened to issues now will be useful in setting priorities. -- William -- William (http://wstein.org) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
