On Sat, Apr 9, 2016 at 2:49 AM, Dima Pasechnik <dimp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> SMC does inform my frustration with the current limitations on Sage
>> development.
>
> I am afraid we see a conflict of interest here.
> It is in interests of SMC that Sage is very, very stable... Frozen.
I want Sage to be (massively) easier to develop and use. I want Sage
usage (and development) to grow beyond its relatively small initial
user group, where it has been stuck since 2010. I think the best
way forward is to trust users and developers further, and support them
with better tools to do development, rather than viewing them as not
worthy of such (" independent fifedoms.... a lot of friction"). My
whole goal with Sage was to give all users as much flexibility and
power as possible, not to centralize authority too much (like with
Magma).
Feedback from users makes it clear they need a stable foundation on
which to build their work, and that -- as much as we imagine we are
providing one -- Sage is not, and things really have got worse (see
Simon King's message). I base this on the feedback in this thread,
and the endless feedback I get from users, and so on.
My proposal is simple: it would be very valuable to support (both
culturally and technically) people creating standalone Python packages
that depend on Sage, developed using current standard open source
practices, which are at this point in pretty good shape.
That's it.
I will continue to recommend to everybody I talk with about Sage
development that we switch from our current massive monolithic
centralized approach toward standard open source practices, as I
mentioned at the beginning of this thread. I hope I have more time
in the future to make this easier for people. I appreciate all the
feedback in this thread.
-- William
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