On Saturday, April 16, 2016 at 5:18:17 PM UTC+1, William wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 8:54 AM, Dima Pasechnik <dim...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > > > > > > On Saturday, April 16, 2016 at 4:34:30 PM UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > >> > >> On 2016-04-16 17:29, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > >> > Any other largish Python-based project that does these kind of > tarballs > >> > these days? > >> > >> The Sage source tarball is a distribution containing many packages, > it's > >> not a "Python project". > > > > > > whatever. > > (1) Providing a source tarball from which one can build Sage without > internet access is a basic requirement from a company that provides > some funding for Sage development over the years. We don't > contractually have to do it, but I think it is a good to be able to do > so. (2) It is also helpful when we have Sage days workshops at places > with crappy internet (frequent), since at least everybody can build > Sage locally from a single tarball. >
one can easily make a local pip repo containing all the needed extra things, if required. I mentioned this in my original post. > > - William > > > > Distributions nowadays do not carry megamegatarballs with them, > > either > > (think e.g. Haskell Platform, or Macaulay2) > > If a Sage package (say, sagenb) needs to do 'pip install Blah' it should > > just do it. > > As opposed to to putting Blah.tar.gz into upstream, creating a > placeholder > > in build/pkgs/Blah, > > doing a vote on sage-devel on whether Blah might be included (oh, and > if, > > oops, Blah has a wrong > > sort of license, it's a no-starter...), hearing much cringing on how > this > > would bloat Sage even more, > > etc etc... > > > >> > >> > Of course it's hard to change this sort of attitude > >> > >> I don't think that there is a problem of attitude, we are most likely > >> just misunderstanding eachother. > > > > > > basically, I propose to reduce the over-packaging of dead-trivial things > > that > > can be pulled from the net with zero effort. > > You say it's no big deal, and I think you are plain wrong here. > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > > "sage-devel" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > > email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > > To post to this group, send email to sage-...@googlegroups.com > <javascript:>. > > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > William (http://wstein.org) > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.