How do you measure that effect? sage-on-gentoo (and other sage-on-distro I would
believe) don’t do that. Or any other stuff of that kind.

François

> On 25/08/2017, at 21:59, Erik Bray <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 11:47 AM, Erik Bray <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 10:31 AM, Harald Schilly <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Inside sage -sh:
>>> 
>>> (sage-sh) ...@compute8-us:build$ time echo "print()" | ipython  > /dev/null
>>> 
>>> real    0m1.122s
>>> user    0m0.812s
>>> sys     0m0.080s
>>> (sage-sh) ...@compute8-us:build$ time echo "print()" | python  > /dev/null
>>> 
>>> real    0m0.014s
>>> user    0m0.008s
>>> sys     0m0.004s
>>> (sage-sh) ...@compute8-us:build$ time echo "print()" | ipython  > /dev/null
>>> 
>>> real    0m1.076s
>>> user    0m0.796s
>>> sys     0m0.064s
>>> 
>>> (sage-sh) ...@compute8-us:build$ time echo "print()" | python  > /dev/null
>>> 
>>> real    0m0.014s
>>> user    0m0.008s
>>> sys     0m0.004s
>> 
>> Looking at these numbers it would seem (unsurprisingly) that IPython
>> is the primary culprit.  IPython has always been a little noticeably
>> slower to start up for me though.
> 
> I found this to also be a significant source of slowdown, every time
> sage-env is sourced (even just when running something like `sage
> -sh`):
> 
> 423 # Use a matplotlib config directory specific to Sage and specific to
> 424 # the version number of matplotlib, by setting the environment
> 425 # variable MPLCONFIGDIR. Note that we can't find the version number by
> 426 # importing matplotlib, because that could create matplotlib's standard
> 427 # config directory. So we use pkg_resources.
> 428 "$SAGE_LOCAL/bin/python" -c 'import pkg_resources;
> pkg_resources.get_distribution("matplotlib").version' 2>/dev/null
> 429 if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then
> 430     MPLVERSION=`"$SAGE_LOCAL/bin/python" -c 'import pkg_resources;
> print (pkg_resources.get_distribution("matplotlib").version)'`
> 431     MPLCONFIGDIR="$DOT_SAGE/matplotlib-$MPLVERSION"
> 432     export MPLCONFIGDIR
> 433     # The directory is created when Sage starts (see sage.misc.misc).
> 434 fi
> 
> That's two extra Python interpreter calls every time almost any `sage`
> command is run.  This can probably be avoided, somehow...
> 
> Erik
> 
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