On Sun, Jan 18, 2009 at 12:15 AM, kcrisman <[email protected]> wrote:
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>
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> On Jan 17, 7:57 pm, David Joyner <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Thanks for the quote (which I added) and the comment.
>>
>> Yes, I "borroewed" lines form your talks and Harald's talk and from
>> our Notices letter. It needs more details relavant to a young math student,
>> but I'll keep working on it.
>>
>> I plan on eventually posting it somewhere with
>> "The Sage group" as author, as long as there are no objections,
>> so anyone teaching a course can grab it, tweek it to their needs,
>> and hand it out to their students as motivation.
>>
>> > There are some things that people could criticize
>> > given your stated goals for your target audience, but I'm not going to
>> > present such criticism.
>>
>
> David,
>
> Since this is similar to your talk at the panel in DC, my comments
> would be similar, and I definitely will be happy to present such
> criticism :)  But not much right now, since you already heard much of


Thank you.


> what I would have to say in terms of how to shape it for such an
> audience.
>
> This is a good start and if you email me off-list in mid-March with
> the source I might even help the "Sage group" tweak this.  Something a


Will do. Thanks again Karl.


> little less triumphalistic, a lot less technical, and with more
> examples will be very helpful in the overall goals of Sage with the
> teachers.  I think the students are unlikely to respond to any such
> arguments as a rule, because the ones who would do so already will
> know about the open source concept, I suspect.
>
> I especially like the part about so many academic projects going
> commercial, because I find it hard to believe that there aren't some
> people who contributed to some in their spare time who then were not
> necessarily compensated for that time with full royalties (maybe just
> a one-time payout, if that) once the projects went commercial.  I
> think that people making software decisions in the HS/early college
> 'market' will resonate with that, even if their students don't.
>
> -  kcrisman
> >
>

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