I agree with John. Lines 2380 and 2388 need a "random output" for that 
reason, like the other calls of that function have already.
Is this a new pull request or is the old #35626 
https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/35626 opened again for corrections?

Chris

On Wednesday, 14 June 2023 at 17:49:21 UTC+1 John Cremona wrote:

> On Tue, 13 Jun 2023 at 17:06, John Cremona <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The elliptic curve failure might be a consequence of the recently merged 
>> PR #35626 about using libpari to compute ranks and generators.
>>
>> I'll take a look to at least see if the output you get is mathematically 
>> correct -- generators are not unique.
>>
>
> I was right. This curve has rank 1 and torsion (Z/2Z)^2 so if P is one 
> generator (of infinte order) then there are 3 other, P+T for T a point of 
> order 2.  The one your are getting is one of these.
>
> So we conclude that we cannot reply on pari always returning the same 
> generator despite random seeds etc being fixed in doctests.  I don't know 
> why that is, but if it is the case then this (and other similar) doctests 
> will have to be written accordingly.
>  
>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 13 Jun 2023, 17:00 Emmanuel Charpentier, <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Debian testing running on core i7 + 16 GB RAM, upgrading 10.1.beta2 
>>> to 10.1.beta3 and rinning ptestlong gives 3 permanent failures :
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>> sage -t --long --warn-long 207.1 
>>> --random-seed=291812591553963182024849035945523427319 
>>> src/sage/schemes/elliptic_curves/ell_rational_field.py # 1 doctest failed 
>>> sage -t --long --warn-long 207.1 
>>> --random-seed=291812591553963182024849035945523427319 
>>> src/sage/coding/linear_code.py # 2 doctests failed sage -t --long 
>>> --warn-long 207.1 --random-seed=291812591553963182024849035945523427319 
>>> src/sage/coding/code_constructions.py # 1 doctest failed 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>>
>>> The last two have been already reported a few times, and seem cosmetic. 
>>> The first one is new and seemingly *not* cosmetic :
>>> charpent@zen-book-flip:/usr/local/sage-10$ sage -t --long --warn-long 
>>> 207.1 --random-seed=291812591553963182024849035945523427319 
>>> src/sage/schemes/elliptic_curves/ell_rational_field.py # 1 doctest failed 
>>> Running doctests with ID 2023-06-13-17-49-08-8dac2a23. Git branch: develop 
>>> Git ref: 10.1.beta0-453-g443b7549ad Running with 
>>> SAGE_LOCAL='/usr/local/sage-10/local' and 
>>> SAGE_VENV='/usr/local/sage-10/local/var/lib/sage/venv-python3.11' Using 
>>> --optional=debian,dot2tex,fricas,gap_jupyter,gap_packages,libsemigroups,msolve,pip,pysingular,sage,sage_spkg,singular_jupyter
>>>  
>>> Features to be detected: 
>>> 4ti2,benzene,bliss,buckygen,conway_polynomials,csdp,cvxopt,cvxopt,database_cremona_ellcurve,database_cremona_mini_ellcurve,database_cubic_hecke,database_jones_numfield,database_knotinfo,dvipng,fpylll,gfan,graphviz,imagemagick,ipython,jupymake,kenzo,latte_int,lrcalc_python,lrslib,mcqd,meataxe,mpmath,msolve,nauty,networkx,numpy,palp,pandoc,pdf2svg,pdftocairo,pexpect,phitigra,pillow,plantri,polytopes_db,polytopes_db_4d,pplpy,primecountpy,ptyprocess,pynormaliz,pyparsing,python_igraph,requests,rubiks,sage.combinat,sage.geometry.polyhedron,sage.graphs,sage.groups,sage.libs.gap,sage.libs.pari,sage.libs.singular,sage.misc.cython,sage.modules,sage.plot,sage.rings.finite_rings,sage.rings.function_field,sage.rings.number_field,sage.rings.padics,sage.rings.real_double,sage.rings.real_mpfr,sage.symbolic,sage_numerical_backends_coin,sagemath_doc_html,scipy,singular,sphinx,sympy,tdlib
>>>  
>>> Doctesting 1 file. sage -t --long --warn-long 207.1 
>>> --random-seed=291812591553963182024849035945523427319 
>>> src/sage/schemes/elliptic_curves/ell_rational_field.py 
>>> ********************************************************************** File 
>>> "src/sage/schemes/elliptic_curves/ell_rational_field.py", line 2380, in 
>>> sage.schemes.elliptic_curves.ell_rational_field.EllipticCurve_rational_field.?
>>>  
>>> Failed example: E.gens(use_database=False, algorithm="pari",pari_effort=4) 
>>> Expected: [(611429153205013185025/9492121848205441 : 
>>> 15118836457596902442737698070880/924793900700594415341761 : 1)] Got: 
>>> [(-38749202011873484470143/306317326339867638016 : 
>>> 678721624672968530804232808604865/5361142413550167706041194328064 : 1)] 
>>> ********************************************************************** 1 
>>> item had failures: 1 of 100 in 
>>> sage.schemes.elliptic_curves.ell_rational_field.EllipticCurve_rational_field.?
>>>  
>>> [896 tests, 1 failure, 241.41 s] 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- sage 
>>> -t --long --warn-long 207.1 
>>> --random-seed=291812591553963182024849035945523427319 
>>> src/sage/schemes/elliptic_curves/ell_rational_field.py # 1 doctest failed 
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>>> Total time for all tests: 251.7 seconds cpu time: 227.0 seconds cumulative 
>>> wall time: 241.4 seconds Features detected for doctesting: 
>>> sage.rings.finite_rings,sage.rings.number_field 
>>>
>>> HTH,
>>> Le dimanche 11 juin 2023 à 13:14:49 UTC+2, Volker Braun a écrit :
>>>
>>>> As always, you can get the latest beta version from the "develop" git 
>>>> branch. Alternatively, the self-contained source tarball is at 
>>>> http://www.sagemath.org/download-latest.html
>>>>
>>>> 443b7549ad3 (tag: 10.1.beta3, github/develop) Updated SageMath version 
>>>> to 10.1.beta3
>>>> 464d3d20aaa gh-35738: configure: Remove stray `stdin.info` file 
>>>> created in test
>>>> d27b19a4efc gh-35737: build/pkgs/maxima: Fix parallel build
>>>> 202ccd7ea08 gh-35733: more uses of yield from
>>>> aba52d4c06a gh-35731: build/pkgs/pyflakes: Remove
>>>> 5b446283d86 gh-35723: some pep8 cleanup in rigged-configurations
>>>> e90d6be7a5c gh-35722: cython-lint for imports in libs/
>>>> 9c83f604a46 gh-35721: cython-lint for imports in rings (mostly in 
>>>> padics)
>>>> 5c9ee290848 gh-35720: fix the linter and add more checks
>>>> 6d1cb7e3323 gh-35718: `sage.graphs`: More modularization
>>>> a2e4cab86c8 gh-35714: provide matrix_symbolic_sparse class
>>>> 41aa6c290de gh-35713: update symengine(_py) to versions 0.10.0 and 
>>>> 0.10.1
>>>> acac1e60e63 gh-35712: fix pep8 E251 in rings/
>>>> 34b4234573c gh-35711: fix all pep8 E251 in combinat
>>>> 0a929ff9da9 gh-35710: fix pep8 E251 in categories, coding, crypto, logic
>>>> 6a142317110 gh-35709: some cython-linting in quadratic forms
>>>> d7bb52abf83 gh-35702: GAP: switch some code to use official libgap APIs
>>>> afc9232bff4 gh-35692: ⬆️ Bump myrotvorets/set-commit-status-action from 
>>>> 1.1.6 to 1.1.7
>>>> 6ca634ae1c0 gh-35671: Upgrade networkx to 3.1, igraph/python_igraph to 
>>>> 0.10.4
>>>> 7e0eb1c9219 gh-35666: remove obsolete .zenodo.json* files, update 
>>>> CITATION.cff to fix zenodo/DOI
>>>> 86d2be056bf gh-35626: Update  the rank function of elliptic curves to 
>>>> use ellrank in pari
>>>> fe931a790a8 gh-35614: allow non-minimal equation for padic heights
>>>> 5343f2e7ea9 gh-35494: avoid computation of Conway polynomials when 
>>>> comparing elliptic-curve morphisms
>>>> 2f426a11f4c (tag: 10.1.beta2) Updated SageMath version to 10.1.beta2
>>>>
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