It is also worth paying some attention to reality when it comes to the cost 
of disk storage.  The cheapest macBook Air model costs $900 and comes with 
a 256GB ssd.  Upgrading to 512GB costs $200 extra.  Users who are not 
willing to invalidate their warranty and are not mechanical geniuses cannot 
replace the ssd with a larger one by themselves.  So, for many students, 
the marginal cost of disk space is $800/TB. Most students will choose the 
256GB drive rather than pay $200 more.  Of course you can buy a decent 1TB 
portable ssd for less than $100, but no one wants to lug one of those 
around so they can plug it in when they need to run Sage.

- Marc

PS It does not help to tell them that they chose the wrong OS.

PPS Many students are using older computers with even smaller disks.

On Tuesday, September 2, 2025 at 9:56:39 AM UTC-5 Marc Culler wrote:

> On Tuesday, September 2, 2025 at 9:19:40 AM UTC-5 Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>
> OK, so the 2.3Gb issue goes away if we compress and prune the docs, 
> and only only then do 
>
> jupyter kernelspecs install 
>
> Is this what you are saying (because 120Mb is really not something to 
> worry about) ?
>
>  
> Yes.
>
> By the way, Sage has custom code in the SageKernel class which makes the 
> docs available from the Help menu in a jupyter notebook.  It does not 
> handle the gzipped files, so we modify it.  For that we use the cocoserver 
> pypi package.
>
> I don't know where 10Gb come from - pdf docs? Docs for all the 
> optional and standard packages? 
>
>
> % du -sch sage
>  11G sage
>  11G total
>
> That is the image we use as a starting point for both Sage_macOS and 
> sage_appimage.  It includes many optional packages as well as the html 
> documentation in all languages and the huge amount of detritus left over 
> after a build (which we remove).  It does not include pdf docs.
>
>  So 10GB (well, really 11GB) is just the disk footprint of a normal Sage 
> installation when Sage is built from source.
>
> - Marc
>

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