kilucas wrote:
> 
> 
> On May 12, 5:14 pm, Jason Grout <[email protected]> wrote:
>> kilucas wrote:
>>> <snip>
>>> I hadn't thought about multiple v single notebook architectures and
>>> will think harder about that now.
>> Or what I would do in your place is just use one notebook for now, and
>> worry about trying to set up multiple notebooks later if you want it.
>> It's trivial to start up multiple notebook instances once you have one
>> working.
> 
> V helpful. Thanks.
> 
>>> So do I just set up the server by following the single user
>>> installation instructions plus your tips on security, and then find a
>>> URL that provides remote access to that server? (And if so, what would
>>> that URL look like?)
>> There is one setting that you need to change on the vmware server to
>> allow outside network access (someone else will have to chime in here; I
>> don't know the setting).  I believe you need to change the networking to
>> be "bridged networking".  Then you need to work with your network
>> administrator about the URL to use to access the server.
> 
> I'll go in search of this setting. Effectively I am the administrator
> here (not that I'm a professional techie) so I know the external URL
> to the current web server that's running on my Windows server but I
> don't know how I'd adjust this to find Sage. Maybe that'll become
> obvious but if anyone knows what shape the URL should take, I'd be
> interested to hear. I'm not even clear at this stage which web server
> (my existing server or one supplied by Sage) will apply.


The vmware sage server will have its own IP address, and thus its own 
hostname and URL.  Sage includes a webserver that will run over the 
vmware network address; that is the webserver you would use (not the one 
on the host computer).  If you change the networking to bridged 
networking, start up the vmware server, then start up sage, you can get 
the hostname by doing:

sage: import socket
sage: socket.getfqdn()
'good'


(fqdn stands for fully qualified domain name)




> 
>>> Or is there more to it than that to drive multiple users from a
>>> Windows-based server?
>>> I ask because the linux instructions for setting up a multi-user
>>> environment looked different from the instructions for a single user
>>> and so I was guessing that the Windows set up would also be different.
>> What instructions are you referring to?  The linux instructions should
>> work, except that you'll also have to change the vmware networking to
>> "bridged" networking (I believe).
> 
> I'm using the pdf version of the Sept 17 2008 installation
> instrcutions. The contents page of this document shows:
> 
> 1 Introduction
> 2 Pre-built Binary Install
>     2.1 Linux and OS X
>     2.2 Microsoft Windows
> 3 Install from Source Code
>     3.1 Steps to Install from Source
>     3.2 Installation in a Multiuser Environment
>             System-wide install
>     3.3 Special Notes
> 4 Running the SAGE Notebook Securely
> 5 Desktop icon
> 6 The Sage Documentation
> 
> You can see that "3.2 installation in a multi-user environment" is
> covered only in the "3 installation from source code" section. This
> implies that it's achieved through a source code install rather than a
> binary install. And, when you look at 3.2, you find it's all about
> Linux anyway. Hence my puzzle about how to set up a multi-user
> environemnt under Windows.


That section is for installing Sage on a computer that has multiple 
users so that they can all use sage from the command line, not for 
setting up sage to be a notebook server for multiple users.  That 
section does not apply to your situation.  I can see the confusion from 
the name, though.

Jason


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