> I have cc'd this email tohttp://groups.google.com/group/sage-notebook

Okay, I did on this reply, too.

> Can you have them try again today?  I upgradedhttp://sagenb.orglast night.
> It's possible this fixes the problem.

It did not fix the problem.  I have about 20 students now who report
this problem.  One student did, however, say that after trying over
and over, it suddenly began working for her (!?).

> Incidentally, nobody has ever reported the problem you're seeing before.

Yay? :)

> > Lastly, I had one of these students install Chrome and try that
> > browser instead.  It behaves nearly identically, except that the
> > sliver of an editor has a resizing handle, and she can resize it to be
> > able to type inside.  However, there is still no toolbar, and saving
> > has no effect, by which I mean that her text disappears, and viewing
> > the worksheet in Edit mode after she's saved the worksheet reveals no
> > trace of the edit at all (just two adjacent computation cells, in
> > between which I expected to find her text).
>
> I wonder if this could be a problem with your network or machines
> filtering something from the network, e.g., some aggressive Windows
> Virus scanner could be at work.   Hopefully not...

Further data:  Most of the students with the problem were using
Firefox 3.0, so I asked a few to upgrade and retry.  They upgraded to
the latest,

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.2) Gecko/
20100115 Firefox/3.6 (.NET CLR 3.5.30729)

and it still has the same problem.  Another student tried Firefox,
Chrome, and IE, and got the same behavior in all browsers!  This
suggests there's definitely something OS-specific going on, as opposed
to anything with the browser.

> I just tried the notebook in Chrome, IE, and Firefox on Windows XP
> (which is what I have), and unfortunately couldn't replicate the
> problem.

I've tried on a Windows 7 [virtual] machine I have and can't reproduce
the problem either.

> I think Java is not relevant, since absolutely the *only* place Sage
> uses Java is for displaying interactive 3d graphics.

Oh.  This was my first guess regarding it being something at the OS
level, that TinyMCE used Java, and they had an old Jave installation
or something.

I'll take a look on the TinyMCE support area and see if they have any
information to offer, then report back here.  If anyone else sees this
same behavior and tracks down the reason, please let me know!  Thanks.

Nathan

PS: I just wanted to post at 3am PST.

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