Thanks, I was just being stupid.

John

On Apr 27, 9:19 pm, William Stein <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 12:04 PM, John Cremona <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Thanks for *not* complaining about the "multiplicative" in "Torsion
> > Subgroup isomorphic to Multiplicative Abelian Group..."
>
> > I once wrote a patch to fix that but no-one liked it enough.
>
> > I also tried E.change_ring(QQbar).torsion_subgroup() but that failed
> > for a different reason!  For some reason, E.change_ring(Qbar) has this
> > type:
>
> > sage: type(E.change_ring(QQbar))
> > <class
> > 'sage.schemes.elliptic_curves.ell_generic.EllipticCurve_generic'>
>
> > while
>
> > sage: type(EllipticCurve(QQbar, E.a_invariants()))
> > <class 'sage.schemes.elliptic_curves.ell_field.EllipticCurve_field'>
>
> > which is inconsistent;  and neither helps, since EllipticCurve_field
> > objects don't have a torsion subgroup....
>
> > Some of this should be easy to fix.  Assuming that you could do
> > something useful with the torsion subgroup over QQbar!
>
> > Wait a minute:  in what sense is the torsion subgroup of J_0(11) of
> > structure [5,5] anyway?  Over Q it is cyclic of order 5, while over
> > QQbar it is (Q/Z)^2 .  So the output is worse than you thought!
> He wrote:
>
> sage: A.torsion_subgroup(5)
> Finite subgroup with invariants [5, 5] over QQ of Abelian variety
> J0(11) of dimension 1
>
> In general, A.torsion_subgroup(n), gives "the n-torsion subgroup".
>
> william
>
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