On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 10:23 AM, arthur <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ah, ok...
>
> Since this is an installation that's intended to go out to a few dozen
> machines I'm not sure in advance what the user's might need so wanted
> to give them everything possible.  A veritable Las Vegas buffet of
> Mathematical software.
>
> But sounds like, as with a big buffet, too much of a good thing is
> just too much.
>
> However, there doesn't seem to be any quickly visible documentation on
> what optional packages are needed for what functionality.  Might be
> good to either put an obvious pointer to such info (in the "how to
> install optional docs" screen) or put up some warning along the lines
> of "don't install these unless you *know* you need them" so those who
> don't know better (like me) won't go overboard.
>
> I don't know if it's possible with the way SAGE is built, but might
> not want to hide from the the displayed list those optional installs
> that make no sense (like Linux binaries on a Mac box).

We would love to, but nobody has implemented that, and everything takes time.
Unfortunately, I think this comment applies to everything above.

 -- William

>
> On Jun 17, 4:46 pm, William Stein <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:14 AM, arthur <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > A fresh install on a brand new 10.6.4 MacBookPro (also failed on
>> > 10.6.3 yesterday).
>>
>> > After installing all the 15 optional installs that would install (that
>> > will be a separate post)
>>
>> Installing all the optional packages without understanding what they
>> are doesn't even make sense to do.
>> For example, one of the optional packages (Valgrind), rebuilds Python
>> in a special debugging mode for doing instrumented debugging, which
>> only works on Linux... and others contain binaries only for certain
>> platforms.
>>
>> One should only install optional packages that you have a specific
>> need for and understand.
>>
>>  -- William
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Sage now won't start, fails with Python
>> > errors, whereas it was starting fine before the optional installs (and
>> > it did do all the optional ones).  Errors below:
>>
>> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> > ++++++++++++++++
>>
>> > Last login: Wed Jun 16 13:24:20 on console
>> > dhcp-0098943500-9d-83:~ admin$ sage
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > | Sage Version 4.4.2, Release Date: 2010-05-19                       |
>> > | Type notebook() for the GUI, and license() for information.        |
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > Traceback (most recent call last):
>> >  File "/Applications/sage/local/bin/sage-ipython", line 18, in
>> > <module>
>> >    import IPython
>> >  File "/Applications/sage/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/IPython/
>> > __init__.py", line 58, in <module>
>> >    __import__(name,glob,loc,[])
>> >  File "/Applications/sage/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/IPython/
>> > ipstruct.py", line 22, in <module>
>> >    from IPython.genutils import list2dict2
>> >  File "/Applications/sage/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/IPython/
>> > genutils.py", line 59, in <module>
>> >    from IPython.external.path import path
>> >  File "/Applications/sage/local/lib/python2.6/site-packages/IPython/
>> > external/path.py", line 35, in <module>
>> >    import md5
>> >  File "/Applications/sage/local/lib/python/md5.py", line 10, in
>> > <module>
>> >    from hashlib import md5
>> >  File "/Applications/sage/local/lib/python/hashlib.py", line 136, in
>> > <module>
>> >    md5 = __get_builtin_constructor('md5')
>> >  File "/Applications/sage/local/lib/python/hashlib.py", line 63, in
>> > __get_builtin_constructor
>> >    import _md5
>> > ImportError: No module named _md5
>> > dhcp-0098943500-9d-83:~ admin$
>>
>> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>> > Help?
>>
>> > Arthur
>>
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