On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 1:58 PM, arthur <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> On Jun 18, 3:25 pm, kcrisman <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > > But sounds like, as with a big buffet, too much of a good thing is
>> > > just too much.
>>
>> It's worth pointing out, though, that most of the optional packages
>> are databases, packages for some very specific research use,
>> additional graphics, or computer internals, in which case perhaps the
>> user could download his/her own copy of Sage to use them?  What sort
>> of context are you envisioning this for?
>>
>> - kcrisman
>
> Well, I'm a SysAdmin, not a mathematician, hence my knowledge of what
> our various mathematicians might need is limited.
>
> I'm working on standardized disk images that will be distributed on a
> few dozen Macs.  I'm trying to install the broadest, most useable
> version of SAGE possible, so it will be most useful for the broadest
> swathe of mathematicians who use those disk images.  For individuals
> I'd be happy to install specific packages if they're not already
> installed, but I'd much prefer to have the needed packages already
> available on their installation so they don't have to figure out what
> they need, tell me, wait for me to have the time to install it, etc.
> Most of our users don't have root on their desktop machines: not being
> able to change system level software and configs allows me to push out
> new software, updates, etc. without breaking what they're used to, but
> it also means I have to give them what they need, hopefully
> anticipating it before they need it.

Fair enough.

I'll post a list of "highly recommended optional packages" in this
thread sometime in the next few days.

William

>
> Also, we have a fair number of shared public machines, so for those I
> can't really install individual packages since I never know which
> individuals will be using which public systems, they all have a common
> disk image.
>
> Part of why I posted was not only to get my own installation in good
> shape, but to help out others in the same boat by helping to improve
> the documentation, error messages, and installation procedures for non-
> specialists (like me).
>
> I suspect William would say I should help improve the documentation by
> not only posting reports (and should any of this sort of thing be a
> formal bug report?) but by fixing the source/docs... and I'd agree
> with him except 1) I don't know the answers to these questions (i.e.
> which databases go with which research purposes, etc) and 2) I'd have
> to properly (re)learn mercurial... though the latter I really ought to
> do anyway, if I only had the time.
>
> Arthur Gaer
> Harvard University
>
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