#5551: [with patch, needs review] Permutation from a pair of standard tableaux
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 Reporter:  slabbe         |       Owner:  slabbe            
     Type:  enhancement    |      Status:  assigned          
 Priority:  major          |   Milestone:  sage-3.4.1        
Component:  combinatorics  |    Keywords:  robinson schensted
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Comment(by slabbe):

 Dear Florent,

 Thanks for your quick answer,

 Replying to [comment:3 hivert]:
 >       Dear Sebastien,
 >
 > It's good to have this ! Thanks.

 Cool!

 > There are three little problems:

 Did you forget the third one or is this a joke meaning you are of the
 second type of mathematician?

 >
 > 1) The documentation says:
 > {{{
 > -  a pair of two standard tableaux of the same shape.
 >    The right tableau must be over the integers 1 to n,
 >    where n is its size.
 > }}}
 > As far as I know a tableau with entries from 1 to n is what is called a
 *standard tableau*.

 And increasing in row and column. Right. I agree. I should remove the
 second sentence above.

 So this leads me to a related question. From a permutation, Robinson-
 Schensted Algo gives a pair of standard tableaux :
 {{{
 sage: p = Permutation([3, 6, 5, 2, 7, 4, 1])
 sage: p.robinson_schensted()
 [[[1, 4, 7], [2, 5], [3], [6]], [[1, 2, 5], [3, 6], [4], [7]]]
 }}}
 But from the following "non bijective" permutation, we obtain a pair of
 tableaux (p,q) where p is semi-standard and q is standard. Well, we can
 say more about p : there are no repeated entry, only possible weigth 1 and
 0.
 {{{
 sage: p = Permutation([3, 6, 5, 2, 117, 4, 1])
 sage: p.robinson_schensted()
 [[[1, 4, 117], [2, 5], [3], [6]], [[1, 2, 5], [3, 6], [4], [7]]]
 sage: t1,t2 = _
 sage: t1.weight()
 [1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0, ..., 0, 0, 1]
 sage: t2.weight()
 [1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1]
 }}}
 Should from_tableaux handle the above pair of tableaux? Actually it does :
 {{{
 sage: p = Permutation([3, 6, 5, 2, 117, 4, 1]) ; p
 [3, 6, 5, 2, 117, 4, 1]
 sage: import sage.combinat.permutation as permutation
 sage: p.robinson_schensted()
 [[[1, 4, 117], [2, 5], [3], [6]], [[1, 2, 5], [3, 6], [4], [7]]]
 sage: permutation.from_tableaux(*_)
 [3, 6, 5, 2, 117, 4, 1]
 }}}
 Then, what should the input of from_tableaux say? Should it say simply a
 pair of standard tableaux as robinson_shensted doc string says it returns
 a pair of standard tableaux? Should it say that it handles a pair (p, q)
 of tableaux where p is semi-standard (weigth 0 or 1) and q is standard?

 > When there are repeated entries the usual terminology is semi standard
 tableaux or young
 > tableaux. See eg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_diagram
 >
 >
 >
 > 2) why not call it {{{robinson_schented_inv}}} ?
 >

 There is a section in permutation.py containing functions constructing a
 permutation from different objects :
 {{{
 #############################
 # Constructing Permutations #
 #############################
 def from_permutation_group_element(pge):
 def from_rank(n, rank):
 def from_inversion_vector(iv):
 def from_cycles(n, cycles):
 def from_lehmer_code(lehmer):
 def from_reduced_word(rw):
 }}}

 The name from_tableaux was then natural. Also, I coded the function for a
 colleague used to mathematica and he told me in mathematica they use
 {{{TableauxToPermutation}}} and {{{PermutationToTableaux}}}. I don't mind
 change it to robinson_schensted_inv or robinson_schensted_inverse(). Do I?

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