#13889: Better automatic backtrace
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       Reporter:  vbraun        |         Owner:  GeorgSWeber 
           Type:  enhancement   |        Status:  needs_review
       Priority:  major         |     Milestone:  sage-5.6    
      Component:  build         |    Resolution:              
       Keywords:                |   Work issues:              
Report Upstream:  N/A           |     Reviewers:              
        Authors:  Volker Braun  |     Merged in:              
   Dependencies:  #13881        |      Stopgaps:              
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Comment (by SimonKing):

 Replying to [comment:6 jdemeyer]:
 > I don't think I know enough about gdb

 At least you certainly know more than I do. So, sorry for my unqualified
 comments...

 > 3. I preferred how the backtrace currently appears '''before''' the
 "Unhandled SIGSEGV: ..." message. When something goes wrong, that message
 stands out at the end of the console output.

 Yes, when an error in Python is raised, one first sees the backtrace and
 then the error message. If Sage crashes, it makes sense to show first the
 backtrace and then the error message as well.

 > I think all those backtraces might confuse less experienced Sage users.

 Well, a less experienced Sage user will hopefully never see such
 backtraces.

 What I mean is: Sage is supposed to run without crashes when doing low-
 level stuff. Hence, crashes are supposed to ''only'' occur if the user
 creates new buggy Cython programs in Sage, or tries to tweak Sage until it
 exposes its existing bugs. And I think a user who does such "real"
 programming and developing is experienced enough to not be confused by a
 backtrace.

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