#20555: descents for Permutations : cleanup
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       Reporter:         |        Owner:
  chapoton               |       Status:  needs_review
           Type:         |    Milestone:  sage-7.2
  enhancement            |   Resolution:
       Priority:  major  |    Merged in:
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  combinatorics          |  Work issues:
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  permutation            |  e6393ab4a5bc9917a95a7e472452548eeed33ddd
        Authors:         |     Stopgaps:
  Frédéric Chapoton      |
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  u/chapoton/20555       |
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Comment (by stumpc5):

 I am personally not totally convinced that this change is the right way to
 go - I think it is a typical example that it is simply very hard to make
 notions that are consistent all over math:

 1. Let w be a finite word in a totally ordered alphabet,say {1,...,n}. Its
 descents are the positions i such that w_i > w_{i+1}. Since python indexes
 words (or rather lists/tuples) starting with 0, it is natural to write w =
 w_0 w_1 ... w_m.

 2. Let w be a permutation of {1,...,n}. A descent of w is an index i such
 that w*(i i+1) ls weak order smaller than w. But on the other hand, its
 one-line notation is a word, it inherits the notion of descents from
 above, which now differs in a shift by 1.

 (There are tons of other examples already in the combinatorics part of
 sage, and the category framework makes that *really* hard to properly
 organize imho.)

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