#8214: add better error message when symbolic expressions are called
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   Reporter:  burcin     |       Owner:  burcin    
       Type:  defect     |      Status:  new       
   Priority:  major      |   Milestone:  sage-4.3.3
  Component:  symbolics  |    Keywords:            
     Author:             |    Upstream:  N/A       
   Reviewer:             |      Merged:            
Work_issues:             |  
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Old description:

> From sage-devel:
>
> {{{
> On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:36:29 -0800 (PST)
> Gustav Delius <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I wonder whether it would be possible to give a better error message
> > when a user leaves out the multiplication operator in something like
> > x(x+1). Perhaps somthing like: "Warning: you may have forgotten a
> > multiplication operator."
> >
> > Currently one gets the error message: "DeprecationWarning:
> > Substitution using function-call syntax and unnamed arguments is
> > deprecated and will be removed from a future release of Sage; you can
> > use named arguments instead, like EXPR(x=...,y=...)". This error
> > message is meaningful only to people who know the history of sage and
> > know that there used to be a confusing shorthand notation that allowed
> > something like x=a^2 to be interpreted as x(a)=a^2. I am glad that was
> > deprecated, but I think that the deprecation warning should be
> > preceeded by the warning about the possibility of a missing *.
> }}}
>
> Here is the thread:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/t/de97f91d548cc0ec
>
> Incidentally, it's almost a year since this was deprecated, #5413. Maybe
> we can remove the deprecation message for good. :)

New description:

 From sage-devel:

 {{{
 On Sun, 7 Feb 2010 10:36:29 -0800 (PST)
 Gustav Delius <[email protected]> wrote:

 > I wonder whether it would be possible to give a better error message
 > when a user leaves out the multiplication operator in something like
 > x(x+1). Perhaps somthing like: "Warning: you may have forgotten a
 > multiplication operator."
 >
 > Currently one gets the error message: "DeprecationWarning:
 > Substitution using function-call syntax and unnamed arguments is
 > deprecated and will be removed from a future release of Sage; you can
 > use named arguments instead, like EXPR(x=...,y=...)". This error
 > message is meaningful only to people who know the history of sage and
 > know that there used to be a confusing shorthand notation that allowed
 > something like x=a^2 to be interpreted as x(a)=a^2. I am glad that was
 > deprecated, but I think that the deprecation warning should be
 > preceeded by the warning about the possibility of a missing *.
 }}}
 Here is the thread:

 http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel/t/de97f91d548cc0ec

 Incidentally, it's almost a year since this was deprecated, #5413. Maybe
 we can remove the deprecation message for good. :)

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Comment(by delius):

 Burcin, I agree with your observation that the shortcut notation has now
 been deprecated for a long time. However the shortcut notation has not
 actually been disabled yet. Perhaps the warning should stay until that has
 happened.

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