#8722: S-units sometimes broken and sometimes just plain wrong for relative 
fields
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   Reporter:  davidloeffler  |       Owner:  davidloeffler
       Type:  defect         |      Status:  new          
   Priority:  major          |   Milestone:  sage-5.0     
  Component:  number fields  |    Keywords:               
     Author:                 |    Upstream:  N/A          
   Reviewer:                 |      Merged:               
Work_issues:                 |  
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Description changed by davidloeffler:

Old description:

> {{{
> sage: L.<a,b> = NumberField([x^2 + 1, x^2 - 5])
> sage: p = L.ideal((-1/2*b - 1/2)*a + 1/2*b - 1/2)
> sage: p.absolute_norm()
> 9
> sage: p.is_prime()
> True
> sage: W = L.S_units([p]); W
> [1/2*a + 7/4, a, 1/2*b - 1/2]
> sage: W[0].valuation(L.primes_above(2)[0])
> -4
> }}}
> So the first element of the list of S-units isn't actually an S-unit! In
> other examples the code just blows up, because it calls
> {{{residue_field}}} and that dies because of #8721:
> {{{
> sage: L.<a, b> = NumberField([polygen(QQ)^2 - 3, polygen(QQ)^2 - 5])
> sage: L.S_units([L.ideal(a)])
> }}}
> This is arguably less bad: raising an error is far better than silently a
> wrong answer.

New description:

 The code for S-unit groups of number fields calls the {{{degree}}} method.
 For relative number fields this deliberately returns an error, because of
 the ambiguity between absolute and relative degree.
 {{{
 sage: L.<a,b> = NumberField([x^2 + 1, x^2 - 5])
 sage: sage: p = L.ideal((-1/2*b - 1/2)*a + 1/2*b - 1/2)
 sage: sage: W = L.S_units([p]); W
 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
 NotImplementedError                       Traceback (most recent call
 last)
 ...
 NotImplementedError: For a relative number field you must use
 relative_degree or absolute_degree as appropriate
 }}}

 In this case I think it should be absolute_degree, but changing this
 returns wrong output:

 {{{
 sage: L.<a,b> = NumberField([x^2 + 1, x^2 - 5])
 sage: p = L.ideal((-1/2*b - 1/2)*a + 1/2*b - 1/2)
 sage: p.absolute_norm()
 9
 sage: p.is_prime()
 True
 sage: W = L.S_units([p]); W
 [1/2*a + 7/4, a, 1/2*b - 1/2]
 sage: W[0].valuation(L.primes_above(2)[0])
 -4
 }}}
 So the first element of the list of S-units isn't actually an S-unit!

 In other examples the code just blows up, because it calls
 {{{residue_field}}} and that dies because of #8721:
 {{{
 sage: L.<a, b> = NumberField([polygen(QQ)^2 - 3, polygen(QQ)^2 - 5])
 sage: L.S_units([L.ideal(a)])
 }}}
 This is arguably less bad: raising an error is far better than silently a
 wrong answer.

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