#8059: Update Singular spkg to release 3-1-1-4
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 Reporter:  malb                                       |         Owner:         
                                               
     Type:  enhancement                                |        Status:  closed 
                                               
 Priority:  major                                      |     Milestone:  
sage-4.5.3                                            
Component:  packages                                   |    Resolution:  fixed  
                                               
 Keywords:                                             |        Author:  Martin 
Albrecht                                       
 Upstream:  Reported upstream. Little or no feedback.  |      Reviewer:  David 
Kirkby, Simon King, William Stein, John Palmieri
   Merged:  sage-4.5.3.alpha1                          |   Work_issues:         
                                               
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Comment(by leif):

 Replying to [comment:129 AlexanderDreyer]:
 > > ''Almost all'' generated files ({{{configure}}}, {{{grammar.cc}}}
 etc.) '''again''' carry the same time stamp as their sources... :(
 >
 > These files '''can''' be generated, but there is no need to do so (if
 you are not a Singular-kernel developer). In fact they are pre-generated
 in the repo:
 > http://www.singular.uni-kl.de/svn/trunk/
 > (That's why the time stamps are equal.)

 And exactly '''that''' can (and did) cause problems; the distributed
 generated files should be
  * '''newer''' than their sources,
  * up-to-date.

 See http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9160#comment:22 (and
 http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9160#comment:20 for the latter
 issue, or the whole ticket...) and also [http://groups.google.com/group
 /sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/fbf5b7f781c3f523# this thread on sage-
 devel].

 Unfortunately we hadn't had the time to add more comments on this to
 {{{SPKG.txt}}}, but I expected the people further working on the Singular
 spkg to be aware of these issues, or take a look at previous tickets
 related to the spkg. (And I didn't edit the SD 23.5 wiki page, because at
 that time it didn't seem appropriate, but asked for other people
 propagating these things.)

 > The reason for this is that the generators for these files (e.g.
 '''specific''' version of autotools and lex) are not available on all
 supported platforms.
 >
 > Of course, there are attempts to change this, but this cannot be done
 within 2,5 days. If (and only if) the tools of Sage distribution are
 capable of generating these files, then the correct solution would be to
 to remove them complete during patching.
 >
 > > <flame>
 > > I thought the upstream developers had learned at Sage Days 23.5, but
 perhaps 3.1.1.4 was just prepared too early...
 > > </flame>
 > This wasn't at topic at SD23.5.

 Obviously unfortunately not, see above. I expected it to be one.

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