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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Tue, August 9, 2011 12:04:54 PM
Subject: Re: [saham] time to attack....
Ahli hibur dibutuhkan saat ini karena trader2 sedang ditakut takuti dari
jan-aug. Dari yg takut akhirnya terbiasa. Market rebound deh.
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From: positif01 <[email protected]>
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Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 10:34:06 +0700
To: <[email protected]>
ReplyTo: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [saham] time to attack....
Nah, ini salah satu contoh yang sebelumnya kami sebutkan: "Ahli Hibur". Sudah
mulai berkeluaran dan berkeliaran.:d
Pasar dalam pandangan Ahli Hibur akan bergerak karena si Ahli mengatakan
satu-dua baris kata.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saham/message/129073
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On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Budiono Kurniawan <[email protected]> wrote:
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From: Fred Krueger <[email protected]>
>To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>Sent: Tue, August 9, 2011 9:44:25 AM
>Subject: Re: [saham] S&P berulah lagi
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>Profitunity detected
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>More on tweetz @MisterSaham
>Sent from iphone
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>On 2011/08/09, at 9:25, Jin Tomang <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>Style nya S&P memang begitu grasak grusuk, Indonesia saja pernah dapat
>>Selective
>>Default 3 kali, tanggal 29 Maret 1999, 17 April 2000, & 23 April 2002.
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>>Yang aneh saat tanggal 29 Maret 1999, tanggal 30 Maret besoknya langsung
>>direvisi/naik ke CCC+ lagi
>>Beda dengan Fitch dan Moodys yang cenderung "kalem"
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>>Rgs
>>JNTM
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>>On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Yhoji Gambler <[email protected]>
>>wrote:
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>>>>>>Stubborn & Pathetic :p
>>>>>>I couldn't agree more... xixixi
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>>>>>>(btw, mr + jingkrak2 nih denger ini, soal si fannie dan si freddie)
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Dimas Yoga <[email protected]>
>>>wrote:
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>S&P downgrades Fannie and Freddie, US-backed debt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://finance.yahoo.com/news/SampP-to-review-ratings-for-apf-1344749763.html;_ylt=AuLYbVLghgARDWwHIAD42uK7YWsA;_ylu=X3oDMTE3NjdqZG5zBHBvcwMxBHNlYwNicmVha2luZ05ld3MEc2xrA3NhbXBwZG93bmdyYQ--?x=0
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Dari sekian banyak lembaga pemeringkat sepertinya S&P lagi kurang
>>>>>>>harmonis
>>>>>>>hubungannya nih sama pemerintah AS. Sebagaimana diketahui S&P dikuasai
>>>>>>>oleh kubu
>>>>>>>Republik yang merupakan oposisi kubu Demokrat yang berkuasa saat ini.
>>>>>>>Tapi
>>>>>>>semoga saja tidak ada aroma politik didalamnya, hehe
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Fitch sama Moody's sementara ini masih adem ayem belom ketularan latah
>>>>>>>downgrade
>>>>>>>yang dikeluarkan S&P. Semoga saja masih diamnya Fitch dan Moody tidak
>>>>>>>menyimpan
>>>>>>>bom waktu yang akan digunakan untuk menekan Dow dikemudian hari (setiap
>>>>>>>Dow
>>>>>>>rebond dikit langsung diguyur sama bad news) hehe..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bahkan pelaku pasar di Amerika sendiri banyak yang kontra dengan
>>>>>>>keputusan S&P
>>>>>>>mendowngrade Fannie & Freddie. Komentar dari beberapa pengunjung Yahoo :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"I know I sound crazy here, but why dont we just wage war on Standard
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>Poor??? There downgrade poses a threat to the well being of the United
>>>>>>>States
>>>>>>>and ultimately the world market. That very threat could be construed as
>>>>>>>being
>>>>>>>one of terror. I know it sounds crazy, I myself see it as such, but
>>>>>>>entered Iraq
>>>>>>>and liberated on terms that really didnt add up. Dictatorship and
>>>>>>>tyranny isnt
>>>>>>>what I am looking for, but if this country were to fall from grace on
>>>>>>>this very
>>>>>>>credit rating and other countries have seen this credit rating harm
>>>>>>>their
>>>>>>>economic balance why not just declare war on the agency. "
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"If you're affected by all this, you know what to do with S&P (the
>>>>>>>"Stubborn &
>>>>>>>Pathetic")"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"if s&p was so reliable why were we not downgraded when the savings and
>>>>>>>loan
>>>>>>>companies collasped in the 80's remember them biggest govt bailout so
>>>>>>>this seems
>>>>>>>to be more politics than saying the worlds largest economy and a gdp of
>>>>>>>over 15
>>>>>>>trillion is not a safe bet then hey go invest in russia or china or
>>>>>>>north korea
>>>>>>>or somalia those seem like well run places that will protect you and
>>>>>>>give you
>>>>>>>rights lol"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"Hows that hope and change working for ya America, thanks community
>>>>>>>organizer
>>>>>>>and chief for stealing my retirement."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It's the gift that keeps on giving. Thanks, politicians. I'll be sure to
>>>>>>>share
>>>>>>>my appreciation come November 2012.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"The S&P is a loser, after all they showed what they knew when they
>>>>>>>rated toxic
>>>>>>>assets AAA. I wonder what the GOP is paying them to cause the stock
>>>>>>>market to
>>>>>>>fall so their wealthy patrons can buy it cheap and make another load of
>>>>>>>money
>>>>>>>pushing it up, and getting institutions buying in to make up for their
>>>>>>>loses.
>>>>>>>BOYCOTT WALLSTREET"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bahkan ada yang berpikir mungkin kredibilitas S&P yang perlu
>>>>>>>di-downgrade
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"lmao. S&P are the ones who rated junk mortgage back securities that
>>>>>>>Fannie was
>>>>>>>securing AAA.
>>>>>>>think it's about time we downgrade S&P"
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Boleh percaya boleh engga, tapi kita coba lihat reaksi pasar IHSG besok,
>>>>>>>apakah
>>>>>>>pengaruh S&P masih cukup kuat untuk kembali menekan pasar kita? Kalau
>>>>>>>boleh ikut
>>>>>>>lembaga pemeringkat, saya lebih baik ikut PEFINDO aja deh yang asli
>>>>>>>Iindonesia,
>>>>>>>enak aja turunin peringkat di Amerika tapi menekan pasar dan cari barang
>>>>>>>murah
>>>>>>>di negeri orang, hehe.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Disclaimer ON
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Salam,
>>>>>>>Dimas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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