Ahli hibur dibutuhkan saat ini karena trader2 sedang ditakut takuti dari 
jan-aug. Dari yg takut akhirnya terbiasa. Market rebound deh. 
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From: positif01 <[email protected]>
Sender: [email protected]
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 10:34:06 
To: <[email protected]>
Reply-To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [saham] time to attack....

Nah, ini salah satu contoh yang sebelumnya kami sebutkan: "Ahli Hibur".
Sudah mulai berkeluaran dan berkeliaran.:d

Pasar dalam pandangan Ahli Hibur akan bergerak karena si Ahli mengatakan
satu-dua baris kata.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/saham/message/129073

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On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Budiono Kurniawan <[email protected]>wrote:

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> *From:* Fred Krueger <[email protected]>
> *To:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tue, August 9, 2011 9:44:25 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [saham] S&P berulah lagi
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> Profitunity detected
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> More on tweetz @MisterSaham
> Sent from iphone
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> On 2011/08/09, at 9:25, Jin Tomang <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Style nya S&P memang begitu grasak grusuk, Indonesia saja pernah dapat
> Selective Default 3 kali, tanggal 29 Maret 1999, 17 April 2000, & 23 April
> 2002.
> Yang aneh saat tanggal 29 Maret 1999, tanggal 30 Maret besoknya langsung
> direvisi/naik  ke CCC+ lagi
> Beda dengan Fitch dan Moodys yang cenderung "kalem"
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> Rgs
> JNTM
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Yhoji Gambler <<[email protected]>
> [email protected]> wrote:
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>>>>> Stubborn & Pathetic :p
>>>>> I couldn't agree more... xixixi
>>>>>
>>>>> (btw, mr + jingkrak2 nih denger ini, soal si fannie dan si freddie)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Dimas Yoga <<[email protected]>
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
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>>>>>> **
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> S&P downgrades Fannie and Freddie, US-backed debt
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://finance.yahoo.com/news/SampP-to-review-ratings-for-apf-1344749763.html;_ylt=AuLYbVLghgARDWwHIAD42uK7YWsA;_ylu=X3oDMTE3NjdqZG5zBHBvcwMxBHNlYwNicmVha2luZ05ld3MEc2xrA3NhbXBwZG93bmdyYQ--?x=0
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dari sekian banyak lembaga pemeringkat sepertinya S&P lagi kurang
>>>>>> harmonis hubungannya nih sama pemerintah AS. Sebagaimana diketahui S&P
>>>>>> dikuasai oleh kubu Republik yang merupakan oposisi kubu Demokrat yang
>>>>>> berkuasa saat ini. Tapi semoga saja tidak ada aroma politik didalamnya,
>>>>>> hehe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Fitch sama Moody's sementara ini masih adem ayem belom ketularan latah
>>>>>> downgrade yang dikeluarkan S&P. Semoga saja masih diamnya Fitch dan Moody
>>>>>> tidak menyimpan bom waktu yang akan digunakan untuk menekan Dow 
>>>>>> dikemudian
>>>>>> hari (setiap Dow rebond dikit langsung diguyur sama bad news) hehe..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bahkan pelaku pasar di Amerika sendiri banyak yang kontra dengan
>>>>>> keputusan S&P mendowngrade Fannie & Freddie. Komentar dari beberapa
>>>>>> pengunjung Yahoo :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *"I know I sound crazy here, but why dont we just wage war on
>>>>>> Standard and Poor??? There downgrade poses a threat to the well being of 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> United States and ultimately the world market. That very threat could be
>>>>>> construed as being one of terror. I know it sounds crazy, I myself see 
>>>>>> it as
>>>>>> such, but entered Iraq and liberated on terms that really didnt add up.
>>>>>> Dictatorship and tyranny isnt what I am looking for, but if this country
>>>>>> were to fall from grace on this very credit rating and other countries 
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> seen this credit rating harm their economic balance why not just declare 
>>>>>> war
>>>>>> on the agency. "*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *"If you're affected by all this, you know what to do with S&P (the
>>>>>> "Stubborn & Pathetic")"*
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *"if s&p was so reliable why were we not downgraded when the savings
>>>>>> and loan companies collasped in the 80's remember them biggest govt 
>>>>>> bailout
>>>>>> so this seems to be more politics than saying the worlds largest economy 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> a gdp of over 15 trillion is not a safe bet then hey go invest in russia 
>>>>>> or
>>>>>> china or north korea or somalia those seem like well run places that will
>>>>>> protect you and give you rights lol"*
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *"Hows that hope and change working for ya America, thanks community
>>>>>> organizer and chief for stealing my retirement."*
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *It's the gift that keeps on giving. Thanks, politicians. I'll be
>>>>>> sure to share my appreciation come November 2012.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *"The S&P is a loser, after all they showed what they knew when they
>>>>>> rated toxic assets AAA. I wonder what the GOP is paying them to cause the
>>>>>> stock market to fall so their wealthy patrons can buy it cheap and make
>>>>>> another load of money pushing it up, and getting institutions buying in 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> make up for their loses. BOYCOTT WALLSTREET"*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bahkan ada yang berpikir mungkin kredibilitas S&P yang perlu
>>>>>> di-downgrade :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *"lmao. S&P are the ones who rated junk mortgage back securities that
>>>>>> Fannie was securing AAA.
>>>>>> think it's about time we downgrade S&P"*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Boleh percaya boleh engga, tapi kita coba lihat reaksi pasar IHSG
>>>>>> besok, apakah pengaruh S&P masih cukup kuat untuk kembali menekan pasar
>>>>>> kita? Kalau boleh ikut lembaga pemeringkat, saya lebih baik ikut PEFINDO 
>>>>>> aja
>>>>>> deh yang asli Iindonesia, enak aja turunin peringkat di Amerika tapi 
>>>>>> menekan
>>>>>> pasar dan cari barang murah di negeri orang, hehe.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Disclaimer ON
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Salam,
>>>>>> Dimas
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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