are u available after 230 on wedesday?
-Tony


On Mar 3, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Nescio Nomen wrote:

> I have class at 10 on Wednesday.  9:30 on Thursday maybe instead?
>
> On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Anthony Perritano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > wrote:
> hows wedseday 930am?
> -Tony
>
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> On Mar 3, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Nescio Nomen wrote:
>
>> I'm a bit busy today and tomorrow.  Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday  
>> are good for me though.  Wednesday, maybe?  Should I just show up  
>> to Tolman at that place during the afternoon?
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Anthony Perritano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> > wrote:
>> yes. leave it on yr classpath. build and clean. Can you come in  
>> today? i can take a look at yr setup if you are still having  
>> problems/
>>
>> -Tony
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 2, 2008, at 11:18 PM, Nescio Nomen wrote:
>>
>>> More specifically, there is an otrunk 0.1 snapshot.jar.  Is this it?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Nescio Nomen  
>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 11:00 PM, Anthony Perritano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>> > wrote:
>>> if u right click on the pas-otrunk and go to properties > build  
>>> path > Projects. is Otrunk there? if it is delete it.
>>> Yes it is; deleted.
>>> then maven should pick up the jar. is otrunk jar in yr maven  
>>> dependenices?
>>> Yes.  Should I delete it there too?
>>>
>>> -Tony
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 2, 2008, at 10:43 PM, Nescio Nomen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, I cleaned otrunk in Eclipse and then let it re-build  
>>>> automatically.  Still has the red X.
>>>>
>>>> I checked the Problems tab:
>>>>
>>>> It says:
>>>> The project cannot be built until build path errors are resolved
>>>>
>>>> and
>>>>
>>>> Project 'pas-otrunk' is missing required Java project: 'otrunk'
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Anthony Perritano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> There is a tab called "Problems". Those are the actually errors.  
>>>> can you copy and paste some of those.
>>>>
>>>> yr problem with otrunk. have u tried to clean it? and then  
>>>> rebuild. sometimes has a problem refreshing the view.
>>>> -Tony
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 2, 2008, at 10:11 PM, Nescio Nomen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> For otrunk I'm actually not sure.  Eclipse marks the project but  
>>>>> none of the files inside as far as I can see.
>>>>>
>>>>> For common apps, all the files are in red.
>>>>>
>>>>> Here are some of the problems:
>>>>>
>>>>> import static net.sf.sail.core.util.PodUtils.createBeanInPod;
>>>>>
>>>>> The import "net" can't be resolved
>>>>>
>>>>> import org.telscenter.pas.beans.PasProject;
>>>>> import org.telscenter.pas.steps.Note;
>>>>> import org.telscenter.pas.util.PasCurnitUtils;
>>>>>
>>>>> beans, steps, util, etc can't be resolved
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Anthony Perritano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>> what are the exceptions for those? can you post?
>>>>> -Tony
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 2, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Nescio Nomen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> What about the otrunk and common-apps?  I still get red X's in  
>>>>>> eclipse for those.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Anthony Perritano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>> Check out a new pas mozswing project. i updated the test and  
>>>>>> other files. maven should be happy now. it should build  
>>>>>> correctly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you should clean and build regularly. sometimes classes files  
>>>>>> don't get replaced
>>>>>> -Tony
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 2, 2008, at 9:05 PM, Nescio Nomen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The PLR and author runtime seem to look fine.  They don't  
>>>>>>> throw any exceptions during mvn install and Eclipse hasn't  
>>>>>>> marked them with any kind of errors.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I didn't open any of the projects until after I started  
>>>>>>> running into problems.  I have not tried the clean option in  
>>>>>>> Eclipse-- should I?  Should I clean everything and then mvn  
>>>>>>> install again?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The full failure from mvn install:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Failed tests:
>>>>>>> warning(junit.framework.TestSuite$1)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tests run: 1, Failures: 1, Errors: 0, Skipped: 0
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Build Failure
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please refer to [long path here] for the individual test  
>>>>>>> results.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I go to the file mentioned in the long path and it says:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Test set:  
>>>>>>> org.telscenter.pas.ui.browser.mozswing.MozSwingrowserFactoryTest
>>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> Tests run: 1, Failures: 1, Errors: 0, Skipped: 0, Time  
>>>>>>> elapsed: 0.047 sec <<< FAILURE!
>>>>>>> warning(junit.framework.TestSuite$1)  Time elapsed: 0 sec  <<<  
>>>>>>> FAILURE!
>>>>>>> junit.framework.AssertionFailedError: No tests found in  
>>>>>>> org.telscenter.pas.ui.browser.mozswing.MozSwingrowserFactoryTest
>>>>>>>     at junit.framework.Assert.fail(Assert.java:47)
>>>>>>>     at junit.framework.TestSuite$1.runTest(TestSuite.java:263)
>>>>>>>     at junit.framework.TestCase.runBare(TestCase.java:127)
>>>>>>>     at junit.framework.TestResult$1.protect(TestResult.java:106)
>>>>>>>     at junit.framework.TestResult.runProtected(TestResult.java: 
>>>>>>> 124)
>>>>>>>     at junit.framework.TestResult.run(TestResult.java:109)
>>>>>>>     at junit.framework.TestCase.run(TestCase.java:118)
>>>>>>>     at junit.framework.TestSuite.runTest(TestSuite.java:208)
>>>>>>>     at junit.framework.TestSuite.run(TestSuite.java:203)
>>>>>>>     at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native  
>>>>>>> Method)
>>>>>>>     at  
>>>>>>> sun 
>>>>>>> .reflect 
>>>>>>> .NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java: 
>>>>>>> 39)
>>>>>>>     at  
>>>>>>> sun 
>>>>>>> .reflect 
>>>>>>> .DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl 
>>>>>>> .invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
>>>>>>>     at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
>>>>>>>     at  
>>>>>>> org 
>>>>>>> .apache 
>>>>>>> .maven.surefire.junit.JUnitTestSet.execute(JUnitTestSet.java: 
>>>>>>> 213)
>>>>>>>     at  
>>>>>>> org 
>>>>>>> .apache 
>>>>>>> .maven 
>>>>>>> .surefire 
>>>>>>> .suite 
>>>>>>> .AbstractDirectoryTestSuite 
>>>>>>> .executeTestSet(AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.java:140)
>>>>>>>     at  
>>>>>>> org 
>>>>>>> .apache 
>>>>>>> .maven 
>>>>>>> .surefire 
>>>>>>> .suite 
>>>>>>> .AbstractDirectoryTestSuite 
>>>>>>> .execute(AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.java:127)
>>>>>>>     at org.apache.maven.surefire.Surefire.run(Surefire.java:177)
>>>>>>>     at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native  
>>>>>>> Method)
>>>>>>>     at  
>>>>>>> sun 
>>>>>>> .reflect 
>>>>>>> .NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java: 
>>>>>>> 39)
>>>>>>>     at  
>>>>>>> sun 
>>>>>>> .reflect 
>>>>>>> .DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl 
>>>>>>> .invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
>>>>>>>     at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
>>>>>>>     at  
>>>>>>> org 
>>>>>>> .apache 
>>>>>>> .maven 
>>>>>>> .surefire 
>>>>>>> .booter.SurefireBooter.runSuitesInProcess(SurefireBooter.java: 
>>>>>>> 338)
>>>>>>>     at  
>>>>>>> org 
>>>>>>> .apache 
>>>>>>> .maven.surefire.booter.SurefireBooter.main(SurefireBooter.java: 
>>>>>>> 997)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Anthony Perritano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>> have you been opening and closing the projects and doing a  
>>>>>>> clean and a build?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> what of PLR and the author runtime? are those built?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> can you post the full exception?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Tony
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 2, 2008, at 8:53 PM, Nescio Nomen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After I checkout pas-otrunk and do the build via mvn install,  
>>>>>>>> I still get the red mark on the Eclipse project indicating  
>>>>>>>> problems.  I don't see any error messages during mvn install,  
>>>>>>>> though.  I continued on and something similar happened for  
>>>>>>>> common-apps.  I then got to browsing-mozswing and this time  
>>>>>>>> got a failure during mvn install.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It says I failed  
>>>>>>>> org 
>>>>>>>> .telscenter.pas.ui.browser.mozswing.MozSwingrowserFactoryTest.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The project doesn't have a red X in eclipse.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As before I get warnings when I download from the  
>>>>>>>> repository.  I'm going to try this stuff on my laptop  
>>>>>>>> (working on my desktop right now) and see if I run into the  
>>>>>>>> same problems and if I do, bring it in to you next week to  
>>>>>>>> see what might be wrong.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Anthony Perritano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>> I am moving this discussion to the list so we can archive and  
>>>>>>>> others can comment. Ben, please address yr questions to the  
>>>>>>>> list. thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. The CSC project Set Proposal. yah, its a good idea to  
>>>>>>>> uncheck that. its unnecessary.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Heres a way to proceed. Lets start yr workspace from scratch.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. Delete all the projects you checked out.
>>>>>>>> 2. Check out Pas Learner Runtime.
>>>>>>>> 3. Maven deps should download. if you continue to get to the  
>>>>>>>> maven error you had below. Right click, close the project. Go  
>>>>>>>> to the command line. Go to yr workspace and the Pas Learner  
>>>>>>>> Runtime dir. in the same directory that has the pom.xml. run  
>>>>>>>> the command "mvn install". this should get you the maven  
>>>>>>>> dependencies.
>>>>>>>> 4. go back to eclipse, right click open project.
>>>>>>>> 5. go to the project menu, do a clean and a build. this  
>>>>>>>> should solve yr problems.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 6. repeat steps for Pas Common Apps, Pas Author Runtime,  
>>>>>>>> etc.... one  at time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> let me know if you have any problems.
>>>>>>>> -Tony
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2008, at 10:38 PM, Hiroki Terashima wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tony/Geoff, can you answer Ben's questions?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ben, go to the confluence page 
>>>>>>>>> (http://www.telscenter.org/confluence/dashboard.action 
>>>>>>>>> ) and create an account. Then sign in with that account, and  
>>>>>>>>> you will be able to edit the page.  Edit the page as you see  
>>>>>>>>> fit, in a way that you think will help newcomers (like  
>>>>>>>>> yourself) the best.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Hiroki
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Nescio Nomen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Also, it seems that Mylyn has been added to Eclipse 3.3 by  
>>>>>>>>> default:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Mylyn becomes part of the default Eclipse 3.3/Europa  
>>>>>>>>> downloads (June 29)"  See http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So maybe step 2 isn't necessary anymore?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, while trying to follow Step 3, I run into a problem  
>>>>>>>>> where it says that I don't have everything I need to install  
>>>>>>>>> all the SVN features.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The problematic feature is: Subversive Integration for the  
>>>>>>>>> CSC Project Set Proposal (Optional) 1.0.6
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It says I first need:
>>>>>>>>> http://vpms.de.csc.com/projectset/update
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I installed this and then did step 3.  Not sure that this is  
>>>>>>>>> a big deal, I'm guessing most people would just uncheck the  
>>>>>>>>> optional feature and it'd probably work fine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I found Steps 4 and 5 kind of hard to follow.  It doesn't  
>>>>>>>>> say where to unzip the downloaded file to (inside of the .m2  
>>>>>>>>> folder?)  and isn't very specific about how to set system  
>>>>>>>>> variables.  (I've never done this on Windows though so it's  
>>>>>>>>> just my ignorance of Windows showing perhaps).  Step 5 makes  
>>>>>>>>> up for this with a reference to a more detailed link at the  
>>>>>>>>> end but the link contains a link to 
>>>>>>>>> http://maven.apache.org/download.html#Installation 
>>>>>>>>>  with more and slightly different instructions, for example  
>>>>>>>>> telling you that you have to set JAVA_HOME, and choosing a  
>>>>>>>>> different folder name.  It wasn't clear to me if it was  
>>>>>>>>> crucial that .m2 be chosen but I went with that and also set  
>>>>>>>>> the JAVA_HOME var after not passing the sanity check in the  
>>>>>>>>> link.  After setting JAVA_HOME as a system var, I pass the  
>>>>>>>>> sanity check.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So then I go on to check out the Pas Suite.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I add the repository and then it tells me the security  
>>>>>>>>> certificate isn't valid or something.  Oh well, I trust you  
>>>>>>>>> guys.  Haha.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I checkout the projects...  Apparently this takes a long  
>>>>>>>>> time...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I also get lots of warnings about things not being  
>>>>>>>>> unretrievable, eg
>>>>>>>>> [WARN] Unable to get resource from repository l2fprod 
>>>>>>>>> (http://www.l2fprod.com/maven2 
>>>>>>>>> )
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On pas-common-apps I get this error:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3/1/08 5:01:51 AM PST: Missing:
>>>>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>>>> 1) org.concord:loader:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Try downloading the file manually from the project website.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Then, install it using the command:
>>>>>>>>>       mvn install:install-file -DgroupId=org.concord - 
>>>>>>>>> DartifactId=loader \
>>>>>>>>>           -Dversion=0.1.0-SNAPSHOT -Dpackaging=jar -Dfile=/ 
>>>>>>>>> path/to/file
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Path to dependency:
>>>>>>>>>       1) org.telscenter.pas-testing:otrunk:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>       2) org.telscenter:pas-otrunk:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>       3) org.concord:loader:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2) org.concord:frameworkview:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Try downloading the file manually from the project website.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Then, install it using the command:
>>>>>>>>>       mvn install:install-file -DgroupId=org.concord - 
>>>>>>>>> DartifactId=frameworkview \
>>>>>>>>>           -Dversion=0.1.0-SNAPSHOT -Dpackaging=jar -Dfile=/ 
>>>>>>>>> path/to/file
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Path to dependency:
>>>>>>>>>       1) org.telscenter.pas-testing:otrunk:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>       2) org.telscenter:pas-otrunk:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>       3) org.concord:frameworkview:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 3) org.telscenter:pas-learner-runtime:jar:0.4.3-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Try downloading the file manually from the project website.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Then, install it using the command:
>>>>>>>>>       mvn install:install-file -DgroupId=org.telscenter - 
>>>>>>>>> DartifactId=pas-learner-runtime \
>>>>>>>>>           -Dversion=0.4.3-SNAPSHOT -Dpackaging=jar -Dfile=/ 
>>>>>>>>> path/to/file
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Path to dependency:
>>>>>>>>>       1) org.telscenter.pas-testing:otrunk:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>       2) org.telscenter:pas-author-runtime:jar:0.4.5-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>       3) org.telscenter:pas-learner-runtime:jar:0.4.3-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 4) org.concord:otrunk:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Try downloading the file manually from the project website.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Then, install it using the command:
>>>>>>>>>       mvn install:install-file -DgroupId=org.concord - 
>>>>>>>>> DartifactId=otrunk \
>>>>>>>>>           -Dversion=0.1.0-SNAPSHOT -Dpackaging=jar -Dfile=/ 
>>>>>>>>> path/to/file
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Path to dependency:
>>>>>>>>>       1) org.telscenter.pas-testing:otrunk:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>       2) org.telscenter:pas-otrunk:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>       3) org.concord:otrunk:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----------
>>>>>>>>> 4 required artifacts are missing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> for artifact:  org.telscenter.pas-testing:otrunk-0.1.0- 
>>>>>>>>> SNAPSHOT.jar
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> After this and some other similar mishaps, I stopped  
>>>>>>>>> checking out anymore projects because I'm not sure if I did  
>>>>>>>>> something wrong, since the projects are red, indicating  
>>>>>>>>> build errors...  I'm fairly certain that I installed SVN and  
>>>>>>>>> Maven properly, and Eclipse says it already has Mylyn/ 
>>>>>>>>> Mylar.  Should I just delete the checked out projects and  
>>>>>>>>> try checking them out again?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Nescio Nomen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi guys, to clarify, NescioNomen = Ben = me.  I should've  
>>>>>>>>> chosen a less flippant e-mail address name..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> More on this, it seems that according to this site: 
>>>>>>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/moved.php
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mylar is now known as Mylyn.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Also, Mylyn appears in the Eclipse preexisting remote sites  
>>>>>>>>> under the Help->Install/Update and doesn't need to be added.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The wiki should probably clarify that.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Are we assuming that the person who is reading the wiki is  
>>>>>>>>> already relatively familiar with Eclipse?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Hiroki Terashima <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Yes,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     I'll add that to the wiki page.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Hiroki
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Nescio Nomen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> These messages were sent while you were offline.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 7:14 PM
>>>>>>>>> Nescio: well one problem i encounter is this:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://download.eclipse.org/technology/mylar/update-site/e3.2/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "install Mylar using update site. Subclipse (below) needs  
>>>>>>>>> Mylar to start."
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> update site redirects me to a nonexistent page
>>>>>>>>> 7 minutes
>>>>>>>>> 7:21 PM
>>>>>>>>> Nescio: did you mean for the person to enter the site into  
>>>>>>>>> eclipse's Help->Software Install/Update->New Features- 
>>>>>>>>> >Remote site?
>>>>>>>>>
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