that should be plenty. see u at 230 wednesday -Tony
On Mar 3, 2008, at 3:39 PM, Nescio Nomen wrote: > Yeah, but I have class at 4:00-5:30. Will 1.5 hrs be enough? I > sent you my gmail calendar of my official class times (I have other > stuff but can schedule it more flexibly), you should be able to use > it to pick out a good time. > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 3:13 PM, Anthony Perritano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > are u available after 230 on wedesday? > -Tony > > > > On Mar 3, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Nescio Nomen wrote: > >> I have class at 10 on Wednesday. 9:30 on Thursday maybe instead? >> >> On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Anthony Perritano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > wrote: >> hows wedseday 930am? >> -Tony >> >> >> >> On Mar 3, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Nescio Nomen wrote: >> >>> I'm a bit busy today and tomorrow. Wednesday, Thursday, and >>> Friday are good for me though. Wednesday, maybe? Should I just >>> show up to Tolman at that place during the afternoon? >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 9:55 AM, Anthony Perritano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > wrote: >>> yes. leave it on yr classpath. build and clean. Can you come in >>> today? i can take a look at yr setup if you are still having >>> problems/ >>> >>> -Tony >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 2, 2008, at 11:18 PM, Nescio Nomen wrote: >>> >>>> More specifically, there is an otrunk 0.1 snapshot.jar. Is this >>>> it? >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Nescio Nomen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 11:00 PM, Anthony Perritano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>> > wrote: >>>> if u right click on the pas-otrunk and go to properties > build >>>> path > Projects. is Otrunk there? if it is delete it. >>>> Yes it is; deleted. >>>> then maven should pick up the jar. is otrunk jar in yr maven >>>> dependenices? >>>> Yes. Should I delete it there too? >>>> >>>> -Tony >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mar 2, 2008, at 10:43 PM, Nescio Nomen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yeah, I cleaned otrunk in Eclipse and then let it re-build >>>>> automatically. Still has the red X. >>>>> >>>>> I checked the Problems tab: >>>>> >>>>> It says: >>>>> The project cannot be built until build path errors are resolved >>>>> >>>>> and >>>>> >>>>> Project 'pas-otrunk' is missing required Java project: 'otrunk' >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 10:17 PM, Anthony Perritano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> There is a tab called "Problems". Those are the actually errors. >>>>> can you copy and paste some of those. >>>>> >>>>> yr problem with otrunk. have u tried to clean it? and then >>>>> rebuild. sometimes has a problem refreshing the view. >>>>> -Tony >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 2, 2008, at 10:11 PM, Nescio Nomen wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> For otrunk I'm actually not sure. Eclipse marks the project >>>>>> but none of the files inside as far as I can see. >>>>>> >>>>>> For common apps, all the files are in red. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here are some of the problems: >>>>>> >>>>>> import static net.sf.sail.core.util.PodUtils.createBeanInPod; >>>>>> >>>>>> The import "net" can't be resolved >>>>>> >>>>>> import org.telscenter.pas.beans.PasProject; >>>>>> import org.telscenter.pas.steps.Note; >>>>>> import org.telscenter.pas.util.PasCurnitUtils; >>>>>> >>>>>> beans, steps, util, etc can't be resolved >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Anthony Perritano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> what are the exceptions for those? can you post? >>>>>> -Tony >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mar 2, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Nescio Nomen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> What about the otrunk and common-apps? I still get red X's in >>>>>>> eclipse for those. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 9:23 PM, Anthony Perritano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> Check out a new pas mozswing project. i updated the test and >>>>>>> other files. maven should be happy now. it should build >>>>>>> correctly. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> you should clean and build regularly. sometimes classes files >>>>>>> don't get replaced >>>>>>> -Tony >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mar 2, 2008, at 9:05 PM, Nescio Nomen wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The PLR and author runtime seem to look fine. They don't >>>>>>>> throw any exceptions during mvn install and Eclipse hasn't >>>>>>>> marked them with any kind of errors. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I didn't open any of the projects until after I started >>>>>>>> running into problems. I have not tried the clean option in >>>>>>>> Eclipse-- should I? Should I clean everything and then mvn >>>>>>>> install again? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The full failure from mvn install: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Failed tests: >>>>>>>> warning(junit.framework.TestSuite$1) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Tests run: 1, Failures: 1, Errors: 0, Skipped: 0 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Build Failure >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Please refer to [long path here] for the individual test >>>>>>>> results. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I go to the file mentioned in the long path and it says: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> Test set: >>>>>>>> org >>>>>>>> .telscenter.pas.ui.browser.mozswing.MozSwingrowserFactoryTest >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>> Tests run: 1, Failures: 1, Errors: 0, Skipped: 0, Time >>>>>>>> elapsed: 0.047 sec <<< FAILURE! >>>>>>>> warning(junit.framework.TestSuite$1) Time elapsed: 0 sec >>>>>>>> <<< FAILURE! >>>>>>>> junit.framework.AssertionFailedError: No tests found in >>>>>>>> org >>>>>>>> .telscenter.pas.ui.browser.mozswing.MozSwingrowserFactoryTest >>>>>>>> at junit.framework.Assert.fail(Assert.java:47) >>>>>>>> at junit.framework.TestSuite$1.runTest(TestSuite.java:263) >>>>>>>> at junit.framework.TestCase.runBare(TestCase.java:127) >>>>>>>> at junit.framework.TestResult$1.protect(TestResult.java: >>>>>>>> 106) >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> junit.framework.TestResult.runProtected(TestResult.java:124) >>>>>>>> at junit.framework.TestResult.run(TestResult.java:109) >>>>>>>> at junit.framework.TestCase.run(TestCase.java:118) >>>>>>>> at junit.framework.TestSuite.runTest(TestSuite.java:208) >>>>>>>> at junit.framework.TestSuite.run(TestSuite.java:203) >>>>>>>> at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native >>>>>>>> Method) >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> sun >>>>>>>> .reflect >>>>>>>> .NativeMethodAccessorImpl >>>>>>>> .invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> sun >>>>>>>> .reflect >>>>>>>> .DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl >>>>>>>> .invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) >>>>>>>> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597) >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> org >>>>>>>> .apache >>>>>>>> .maven.surefire.junit.JUnitTestSet.execute(JUnitTestSet.java: >>>>>>>> 213) >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> org >>>>>>>> .apache >>>>>>>> .maven >>>>>>>> .surefire >>>>>>>> .suite >>>>>>>> .AbstractDirectoryTestSuite >>>>>>>> .executeTestSet(AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.java:140) >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> org >>>>>>>> .apache >>>>>>>> .maven >>>>>>>> .surefire >>>>>>>> .suite >>>>>>>> .AbstractDirectoryTestSuite >>>>>>>> .execute(AbstractDirectoryTestSuite.java:127) >>>>>>>> at org.apache.maven.surefire.Surefire.run(Surefire.java: >>>>>>>> 177) >>>>>>>> at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native >>>>>>>> Method) >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> sun >>>>>>>> .reflect >>>>>>>> .NativeMethodAccessorImpl >>>>>>>> .invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> sun >>>>>>>> .reflect >>>>>>>> .DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl >>>>>>>> .invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) >>>>>>>> at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597) >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> org >>>>>>>> .apache >>>>>>>> .maven >>>>>>>> .surefire >>>>>>>> .booter.SurefireBooter.runSuitesInProcess(SurefireBooter.java: >>>>>>>> 338) >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> org >>>>>>>> .apache >>>>>>>> .maven >>>>>>>> .surefire.booter.SurefireBooter.main(SurefireBooter.java:997) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Anthony Perritano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> have you been opening and closing the projects and doing a >>>>>>>> clean and a build? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> what of PLR and the author runtime? are those built? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> can you post the full exception? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Tony >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 2, 2008, at 8:53 PM, Nescio Nomen wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> After I checkout pas-otrunk and do the build via mvn >>>>>>>>> install, I still get the red mark on the Eclipse project >>>>>>>>> indicating problems. I don't see any error messages during >>>>>>>>> mvn install, though. I continued on and something similar >>>>>>>>> happened for common-apps. I then got to browsing-mozswing >>>>>>>>> and this time got a failure during mvn install. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It says I failed >>>>>>>>> org >>>>>>>>> .telscenter.pas.ui.browser.mozswing.MozSwingrowserFactoryTest. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The project doesn't have a red X in eclipse. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> As before I get warnings when I download from the >>>>>>>>> repository. I'm going to try this stuff on my laptop >>>>>>>>> (working on my desktop right now) and see if I run into the >>>>>>>>> same problems and if I do, bring it in to you next week to >>>>>>>>> see what might be wrong. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 1:00 PM, Anthony Perritano <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>> I am moving this discussion to the list so we can archive >>>>>>>>> and others can comment. Ben, please address yr questions to >>>>>>>>> the list. thanks. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. The CSC project Set Proposal. yah, its a good idea to >>>>>>>>> uncheck that. its unnecessary. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Heres a way to proceed. Lets start yr workspace from scratch. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 1. Delete all the projects you checked out. >>>>>>>>> 2. Check out Pas Learner Runtime. >>>>>>>>> 3. Maven deps should download. if you continue to get to the >>>>>>>>> maven error you had below. Right click, close the project. >>>>>>>>> Go to the command line. Go to yr workspace and the Pas >>>>>>>>> Learner Runtime dir. in the same directory that has the >>>>>>>>> pom.xml. run the command "mvn install". this should get you >>>>>>>>> the maven dependencies. >>>>>>>>> 4. go back to eclipse, right click open project. >>>>>>>>> 5. go to the project menu, do a clean and a build. this >>>>>>>>> should solve yr problems. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> 6. repeat steps for Pas Common Apps, Pas Author Runtime, >>>>>>>>> etc.... one at time. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> let me know if you have any problems. >>>>>>>>> -Tony >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 1, 2008, at 10:38 PM, Hiroki Terashima wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tony/Geoff, can you answer Ben's questions? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ben, go to the confluence page >>>>>>>>>> (http://www.telscenter.org/confluence/dashboard.action >>>>>>>>>> ) and create an account. Then sign in with that account, >>>>>>>>>> and you will be able to edit the page. Edit the page as >>>>>>>>>> you see fit, in a way that you think will help newcomers >>>>>>>>>> (like yourself) the best. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> Hiroki >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 1, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Nescio Nomen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Also, it seems that Mylyn has been added to Eclipse 3.3 by >>>>>>>>>> default: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "Mylyn becomes part of the default Eclipse 3.3/Europa >>>>>>>>>> downloads (June 29)" See http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So maybe step 2 isn't necessary anymore? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also, while trying to follow Step 3, I run into a problem >>>>>>>>>> where it says that I don't have everything I need to >>>>>>>>>> install all the SVN features. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The problematic feature is: Subversive Integration for the >>>>>>>>>> CSC Project Set Proposal (Optional) 1.0.6 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It says I first need: >>>>>>>>>> http://vpms.de.csc.com/projectset/update >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I installed this and then did step 3. Not sure that this >>>>>>>>>> is a big deal, I'm guessing most people would just uncheck >>>>>>>>>> the optional feature and it'd probably work fine. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I found Steps 4 and 5 kind of hard to follow. It doesn't >>>>>>>>>> say where to unzip the downloaded file to (inside of >>>>>>>>>> the .m2 folder?) and isn't very specific about how to set >>>>>>>>>> system variables. (I've never done this on Windows though >>>>>>>>>> so it's just my ignorance of Windows showing perhaps). >>>>>>>>>> Step 5 makes up for this with a reference to a more >>>>>>>>>> detailed link at the end but the link contains a link to >>>>>>>>>> http://maven.apache.org/download.html#Installation >>>>>>>>>> with more and slightly different instructions, for example >>>>>>>>>> telling you that you have to set JAVA_HOME, and choosing a >>>>>>>>>> different folder name. It wasn't clear to me if it was >>>>>>>>>> crucial that .m2 be chosen but I went with that and also >>>>>>>>>> set the JAVA_HOME var after not passing the sanity check in >>>>>>>>>> the link. After setting JAVA_HOME as a system var, I pass >>>>>>>>>> the sanity check. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So then I go on to check out the Pas Suite. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I add the repository and then it tells me the security >>>>>>>>>> certificate isn't valid or something. Oh well, I trust you >>>>>>>>>> guys. Haha. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I checkout the projects... Apparently this takes a long >>>>>>>>>> time... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I also get lots of warnings about things not being >>>>>>>>>> unretrievable, eg >>>>>>>>>> [WARN] Unable to get resource from repository l2fprod >>>>>>>>>> (http://www.l2fprod.com/maven2 >>>>>>>>>> ) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On pas-common-apps I get this error: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 3/1/08 5:01:51 AM PST: Missing: >>>>>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>>>>> 1) org.concord:loader:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Try downloading the file manually from the project website. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Then, install it using the command: >>>>>>>>>> mvn install:install-file -DgroupId=org.concord - >>>>>>>>>> DartifactId=loader \ >>>>>>>>>> -Dversion=0.1.0-SNAPSHOT -Dpackaging=jar -Dfile=/ >>>>>>>>>> path/to/file >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Path to dependency: >>>>>>>>>> 1) org.telscenter.pas-testing:otrunk:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT >>>>>>>>>> 2) org.telscenter:pas-otrunk:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT >>>>>>>>>> 3) org.concord:loader:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2) org.concord:frameworkview:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Try downloading the file manually from the project website. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Then, install it using the command: >>>>>>>>>> mvn install:install-file -DgroupId=org.concord - >>>>>>>>>> DartifactId=frameworkview \ >>>>>>>>>> -Dversion=0.1.0-SNAPSHOT -Dpackaging=jar -Dfile=/ >>>>>>>>>> path/to/file >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Path to dependency: >>>>>>>>>> 1) org.telscenter.pas-testing:otrunk:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT >>>>>>>>>> 2) org.telscenter:pas-otrunk:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT >>>>>>>>>> 3) org.concord:frameworkview:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 3) org.telscenter:pas-learner-runtime:jar:0.4.3-SNAPSHOT >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Try downloading the file manually from the project website. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Then, install it using the command: >>>>>>>>>> mvn install:install-file -DgroupId=org.telscenter - >>>>>>>>>> DartifactId=pas-learner-runtime \ >>>>>>>>>> -Dversion=0.4.3-SNAPSHOT -Dpackaging=jar -Dfile=/ >>>>>>>>>> path/to/file >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Path to dependency: >>>>>>>>>> 1) org.telscenter.pas-testing:otrunk:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT >>>>>>>>>> 2) org.telscenter:pas-author-runtime:jar:0.4.5-SNAPSHOT >>>>>>>>>> 3) org.telscenter:pas-learner-runtime:jar:0.4.3- >>>>>>>>>> SNAPSHOT >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 4) org.concord:otrunk:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Try downloading the file manually from the project website. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Then, install it using the command: >>>>>>>>>> mvn install:install-file -DgroupId=org.concord - >>>>>>>>>> DartifactId=otrunk \ >>>>>>>>>> -Dversion=0.1.0-SNAPSHOT -Dpackaging=jar -Dfile=/ >>>>>>>>>> path/to/file >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Path to dependency: >>>>>>>>>> 1) org.telscenter.pas-testing:otrunk:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT >>>>>>>>>> 2) org.telscenter:pas-otrunk:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT >>>>>>>>>> 3) org.concord:otrunk:jar:0.1.0-SNAPSHOT >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ---------- >>>>>>>>>> 4 required artifacts are missing. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> for artifact: org.telscenter.pas-testing:otrunk-0.1.0- >>>>>>>>>> SNAPSHOT.jar >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> After this and some other similar mishaps, I stopped >>>>>>>>>> checking out anymore projects because I'm not sure if I did >>>>>>>>>> something wrong, since the projects are red, indicating >>>>>>>>>> build errors... I'm fairly certain that I installed SVN >>>>>>>>>> and Maven properly, and Eclipse says it already has Mylyn/ >>>>>>>>>> Mylar. Should I just delete the checked out projects and >>>>>>>>>> try checking them out again? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:51 PM, Nescio Nomen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Hi guys, to clarify, NescioNomen = Ben = me. I should've >>>>>>>>>> chosen a less flippant e-mail address name.. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> More on this, it seems that according to this site: >>>>>>>>>> http://www.eclipse.org/mylyn/moved.php >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Mylar is now known as Mylyn. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also, Mylyn appears in the Eclipse preexisting remote sites >>>>>>>>>> under the Help->Install/Update and doesn't need to be added. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The wiki should probably clarify that. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Are we assuming that the person who is reading the wiki is >>>>>>>>>> already relatively familiar with Eclipse? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:19 PM, Hiroki Terashima <[EMAIL >>>>>>>>>> PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Yes, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'll add that to the wiki page. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> Hiroki >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 7:14 PM, Nescio Nomen <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> These messages were sent while you were offline. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 7:14 PM >>>>>>>>>> Nescio: well one problem i encounter is this: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://download.eclipse.org/technology/mylar/update-site/ >>>>>>>>>> e3.2/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "install Mylar using update site. Subclipse (below) needs >>>>>>>>>> Mylar to start." >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> update site redirects me to a nonexistent page >>>>>>>>>> 7 minutes >>>>>>>>>> 7:21 PM >>>>>>>>>> Nescio: did you mean for the person to enter the site into >>>>>>>>>> eclipse's Help->Software Install/Update->New Features- >>>>>>>>>> >Remote site? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SAIL-Dev" group. 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