I don't think anyone would glamorise poverty and make a conscious choice to be 
poor.
The point I wanted to make was that DESPITE poverty and hardship the villagers 
of yore emerged stronger and more at peace with nature and with themselves.
Today poverty makes people bitter, frustrated and discontented because as you 
rightly said they are aware of their deprivation and long for a better life.Who 
can blame them?
There is only one solution;those who have should share with those who do not. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Frederick Noronha 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 2:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] The Goa that is fast getting into History !


  We should not fall into the trap of glamourising poverty. While these men may 
be "richer than most of us", how many of us would like to exchange our lives 
for their's?

  At the end of the day, I would say that the bulk of the villagers of Saligao 
have no stake in our growth or our aspirations. Many don't even have access to 
a decent, regular and sustainable income -- more so after the collapse of the 
traditional, often barter-based economy. The fact that they can see the good 
life passing them by makes them only more aware of their deprivation.

  Which is why, many would be willing to do just about anything to get ahead in 
life -- whether that's selling water, giving controversial permissions for 
buildings, massacaring a part of the village sylvan areas, dumping mud into 
fields, and so on...

  As Chris has pointed out, many of our co-villagers have not moved one inch 
forward in the past one generation or two. In colonial times, we had an alibi. 
Now, whom do we blame? Just the politicians? I don't think that's sufficient.

  I don't intend to be pessimistic alone. We have some fine institutions in 
Saligao, which are benefitting a whole lot ... including schools which accept 
all, regardless of differences of community, caste or class (there are still a 
few barriers like language, but not as insurmountable as in the past).

  We also have individuals who have given a lot, and helped make the village a 
better place. But let us not forget those who have been almost completely 
excluded from all such initiatives. FN

  Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490
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  On 14 January 2011 07:27, Yvon.Gmail <[email protected]> wrote:

    Exactly my sentiments Sanjeev!!.
    We will not see such strength,stamina and a oneness with nature in the 
generations to come. Their weather-beaten faces are beautiful.
    We may interpret a picture in different ways but there's
     no denying that these pictures speak to us of our history. 
    Thanks for sharing.
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Sanjeev Trivedi 
      To: [email protected] 
      Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:06 AM
      Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] The Goa that is fast getting into History !


      The pictures were meant to capture the once very integral part of the 
Goan village scene. certainly NOT beauty. 


      If you consider the pride, self respect and dignity these men possess, 
they are richer than most of us.  I look upon these gentlemen with utmost 
respect.


      Sanjeev





      On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 7:09 AM, Christopher Desouza 
<[email protected]> wrote:

        Hi Sanjeev, 


        I second Dilip in saying that the pictures are good because they were 
taken by a top notch camera and cameraman. 


        That being said,what it brings to mind, to us Goan expats , is the 
hardship and poverty which does not seem to leave the most unfortunate of 
fellow Goans. Us all expats have conquered mountains, started companies, 
achieved in medicine, written books, held top notch civil service positions 
etc. etc. but have not been able to change the daily lives of most Goans for 
the better. This is because, the people in leadership locally, are corrupt, 
have a get rich at all costs mentality, no matter what the cost to the rest of 
society or environment is, and have not worked to better the fortunes of the 
common masses. 


        Instead they have tried to keep the Goan people, ignorant by forcing 
them to study in Konkani in elementary school and by the time they get to 
middle and high school they are already left behind. Their education is only 
good  to keep alive in the villages. This makes for a uneducated populace that 
cannot challenge corruption and instead, embrace it at all levels, pandering to 
the greed of those in leadership. This attitude has permeated into every 
segment of our Goan society, and now it is a free for all, of dog eat dog. Some 
of this has been brought about, by us Goan expats, flashing our foreign 
exchange and making people who do not have, feel envious, and in order to keep 
up with the Joneses, more able to be open minded about being dishonest. 


        I commend the few good souls, in Goa, who work tirelessly for the 
betterment of Goan Society, against unsurmountable odds. 
        With the amount of Goan talent involved, making the world a better 
place for the last few hundred years, it comes  at a great surprise that we 
Goans, outperform on a world stage but are outclassed at home.


        I enjoyed you pictures Sanjeev, and I hope you continue to expose the 
ills of society through your lens. I, like Dilip, am very pained by the 
reflection of what those images mean....that the hardship of the Goan people 
has not changed in the 30 odd years of my absence.
        Regards
        Chris D
        [email protected]

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        From: dilip dacruz <[email protected]>
        To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
        Sent: Mon, January 10, 2011 5:12:26 AM
        Subject: RE: [SALIGAONET] The Goa that is fast getting into History !


        Hi Sanjeev. These are beautiful photographs indeed, but I DO look 
forward to the Goa they capture rapidly disappearing into history. The wizened 
face, the worn out slippers, the ancient worn-out bicycle, the sheer hardship 
of life that the pictures capture - there is nothing beautiful about hardship 
and poverty.

        I guess the beauty of the pics is that they capture the unbeautiful 
beautifully?

        [email protected]




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        From: [email protected]
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: [SALIGAONET] The Goa that is fast getting into History !
        Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:16:49 +0530




        I am sure most Saligaonetters will relate to these pictures.


        Sanjeev


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