Dear Sanjeev,

Thank God for people like yourself.

I agree with you that those of us who have inherited much of what we are today 
is due to these hard working, men and women of Integrity of yesteryears.

I note that there is an attempt to list all the Craftsmen and women who have 
preserved out heritage.

I note there is an attempt to recognise these creative people for the economic 
gains they will provide, but there is no attempt to raise  the respect we need 
to have for their unique skills and creativity. In Europe people with lesser 
skills were united into Guilds and found patronage among the rich and mighty. 
Their skills were no match for those in India and China. But in Goa we 
categorised them into the prevailing stratification without giving them the 
prominence they deserved.

I agree with you that when  I look back I have respect for their dignity and 
integrity, and more importantly for the values and norms they lived by.

Thankyou Sanjeev,

Take care and God Bless
Albert da Cruz
Perth
Western Australia.

From: Frederick Noronha 
Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:57 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] The Goa that is fast getting into History !

We should not fall into the trap of glamourising poverty. While these men may 
be "richer than most of us", how many of us would like to exchange our lives 
for their's?

At the end of the day, I would say that the bulk of the villagers of Saligao 
have no stake in our growth or our aspirations. Many don't even have access to 
a decent, regular and sustainable income -- more so after the collapse of the 
traditional, often barter-based economy. The fact that they can see the good 
life passing them by makes them only more aware of their deprivation.

Which is why, many would be willing to do just about anything to get ahead in 
life -- whether that's selling water, giving controversial permissions for 
buildings, massacaring a part of the village sylvan areas, dumping mud into 
fields, and so on...

As Chris has pointed out, many of our co-villagers have not moved one inch 
forward in the past one generation or two. In colonial times, we had an alibi. 
Now, whom do we blame? Just the politicians? I don't think that's sufficient.

I don't intend to be pessimistic alone. We have some fine institutions in 
Saligao, which are benefitting a whole lot ... including schools which accept 
all, regardless of differences of community, caste or class (there are still a 
few barriers like language, but not as insurmountable as in the past).

We also have individuals who have given a lot, and helped make the village a 
better place. But let us not forget those who have been almost completely 
excluded from all such initiatives. FN

Frederick Noronha :: +91-9822122436 :: +91-832-2409490
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On 14 January 2011 07:27, Yvon.Gmail <[email protected]> wrote:

  Exactly my sentiments Sanjeev!!.
  We will not see such strength,stamina and a oneness with nature in the 
generations to come. Their weather-beaten faces are beautiful.
  We may interpret a picture in different ways but there's
  no denying that these pictures speak to us of our history. 
  Thanks for sharing.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Sanjeev Trivedi 
    To: [email protected] 
    Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 9:06 AM
    Subject: Re: [SALIGAONET] The Goa that is fast getting into History !

    The pictures were meant to capture the once very integral part of the Goan 
village scene. certainly NOT beauty. 

    If you consider the pride, self respect and dignity these men possess, they 
are richer than most of us.  I look upon these gentlemen with utmost respect.

    Sanjeev




    On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 7:09 AM, Christopher Desouza 
<[email protected]> wrote:

      Hi Sanjeev, 

      I second Dilip in saying that the pictures are good because they were 
taken by a top notch camera and cameraman. 

      That being said,what it brings to mind, to us Goan expats , is the 
hardship and poverty which does not seem to leave the most unfortunate of 
fellow Goans. Us all expats have conquered mountains, started companies, 
achieved in medicine, written books, held top notch civil service positions 
etc. etc. but have not been able to change the daily lives of most Goans for 
the better. This is because, the people in leadership locally, are corrupt, 
have a get rich at all costs mentality, no matter what the cost to the rest of 
society or environment is, and have not worked to better the fortunes of the 
common masses. 

      Instead they have tried to keep the Goan people, ignorant by forcing them 
to study in Konkani in elementary school and by the time they get to middle and 
high school they are already left behind. Their education is only good  to keep 
alive in the villages. This makes for a uneducated populace that cannot 
challenge corruption and instead, embrace it at all levels, pandering to the 
greed of those in leadership. This attitude has permeated into every segment of 
our Goan society, and now it is a free for all, of dog eat dog. Some of this 
has been brought about, by us Goan expats, flashing our foreign exchange and 
making people who do not have, feel envious, and in order to keep up with the 
Joneses, more able to be open minded about being dishonest. 

      I commend the few good souls, in Goa, who work tirelessly for the 
betterment of Goan Society, against unsurmountable odds. 
      With the amount of Goan talent involved, making the world a better place 
for the last few hundred years, it comes  at a great surprise that we Goans, 
outperform on a world stage but are outclassed at home.

      I enjoyed you pictures Sanjeev, and I hope you continue to expose the 
ills of society through your lens. I, like Dilip, am very pained by the 
reflection of what those images mean....that the hardship of the Goan people 
has not changed in the 30 odd years of my absence.
      Regards
      Chris D
      [email protected]

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      From: dilip dacruz <[email protected]>
      To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
      Sent: Mon, January 10, 2011 5:12:26 AM
      Subject: RE: [SALIGAONET] The Goa that is fast getting into History !


      Hi Sanjeev. These are beautiful photographs indeed, but I DO look forward 
to the Goa they capture rapidly disappearing into history. The wizened face, 
the worn out slippers, the ancient worn-out bicycle, the sheer hardship of life 
that the pictures capture - there is nothing beautiful about hardship and 
poverty.

      I guess the beauty of the pics is that they capture the unbeautiful 
beautifully?

      [email protected]




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      From: [email protected]
      To: [email protected]
      Subject: [SALIGAONET] The Goa that is fast getting into History !
      Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 12:16:49 +0530



      I am sure most Saligaonetters will relate to these pictures.

      Sanjeev

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