Dear Blaise, Brilliantly written, you exposed the fraud that this is, especially the falsehoods that keep being perpetrated by this guy.... Keep up the good work!!!! Maurice
--- On Thu, 4/5/12, Blaise Costabir <[email protected]> wrote: From: Blaise Costabir <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Dear Blaise Costabir... To: "muriel&mario" <[email protected]> Cc: "Sujay gupta" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, April 5, 2012, 1:28 AM Dear Mario My initial reaction was to ignore this mail as other wise we will go back and forth. You are entitled to your views and me mine. However since I saw this marked to a group I thought I should clarify some points. Out of the 20 odd congratulatory messages, two were contrary to my view, one was my wife who felt with so many dear friends in Saligao it was not correct to get involved as it meant one side would be offended. My reply was if we think of Goa, who should we make a point with, our friends or our enemies. The other is your email. I am marking a copy to Sujoy the editor of Herald and he may publish your reply if he feels necessary. Please mark my reply to your friends on Saligao net as I do not think I have access to them. My points are in red below. My view is not on your tower, my view is asking people to think before opposing, we want power but not the power station. We want a good life but not a composting station near our house. Since I do not like sitting on the fence I have made my point, not to create enemies of friends but better friends. Why can we not make our views open without it being if you are not on my side you are against me. I clearly stated, I would appreciate your agitation more if each of you and your families gave up the cell phone first. The local MLA unfortunately is conditioned to think this ward 20 odd votes so what should I do. Will he also give up his phone. Will he after reading about the hazards take a decision that in his constituency there will be no towers and no cell phones will be allowed or as usual will he play to the gallery and not for Goa. Have a good day. Blaise Costabir Managing Director GMI Zarhak Moulders Pvt ltd website: www.shaktiindia.com Blog: onyourown-implementor.blogspot.com On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 2:17 AM, muriel&mario <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Blaise, When I saw you at the Goa Chamber of Commerce and Industry (GCCI) seminar on World Consumers Day, on 15 March, I felt happy and hopeful. In fact, it made my day! I was happy that at last I found someone, a family member who could talk to Claire's mother Joan, (your mother-in-law), Lynette, the widow of her late son Alfie and their 3 children. I was hopeful that at last, someone from the family would be able to tell them the truth about the radiation hazards and other realities connected with the Mobile Phone Tower, less than a 100 mts. away from their home, in the Delaney compound opposite. All you knew of me at the time, was "the gentleman who identified himself as a resident of the picturesque village of Saligao". But I knew who you were and that was why I went out of my way to meet you and give you a set of documentation containing the 5 documents attached here, a CD containing the first video documentary of the Delaney Tower struggle and 10 pages of newspaper cuttings. That package contained our entire case! The only reason I took the trouble to meet you and give you all this material, was because I saw you as the only person who could talk to Joan, Lynette and the children and actually help that vulnerable family protect themselves from a hazardous mobile phone tower. Mario, when you gave me the information and asked me to lobby with my mother in Law, I was upfront and very clear. I said to you that I cannot oppose any tower or ask my mother in law to do the same because I use a cell phone. You said to me, you wanted it moved 500 mts away to a field and I asked what about the people around the field. I further added that since I live in Fatorda, where would the tower there go, there is no 500 mts radius open space. So my written views should not have surprised you. But what did you do with all this information given on a platter to you, in good faith? You pinched indiscriminate bits and pieces of it, twisted them into poor fiction, put words into my mouth and used the shoddy result to hinge the rest of your article on. For example, I did not say any of the following: - that I am from the picturesque village of Saligao - that I wanted to enjoy the benefits of the mobile phone, but wanted it shifted because it spoilt the beauty of the village. - that I wanted it shifted 500 mts. away from the "present" location, into somebody else's back yard. What I did say was that, the global mobile phone industry was invading Saligao, its habitat, its environment and its aesthetic space. I also said that it was an assault on the fundamental Right to Life (Art. 21 of the Indian Constitution) of an entire community. The invasion and assault, I pointed out was effected by international finance, in the form of Multi National Corporations that represented the global mobile phone industry. In the panel discussion during that seminar, I asked the panelists, if there was anything in the Consumer Protection Act to protect consumers from such an invasion and assault. This was the scope of my intervention that day at the GCCI auditorium. It is possible that you did not hear me too well as you were sitting in the last row of a packed hall. I did not go into the details that you have poached and misused from the extensive documentation I voluntarily shared with you. Mario, Let us not split hair on syntax and language. Let us get to the point.I have referred to nothing from your information as I did not read it, neither did I read the counter material given by Ashley. That is not to say I have not gathered my own information on the subject. I am clear that despite being an unproven hazard, I find the cell phone very useful. I have stated my view, you are perfectly within your rights to continue protesting and even stopping the tower. What you have done is to take the scientific and well documented facts from the information I gave you and twist them to form the springboard of your entire column. Mario you must be reading someone else's column, please quote one line from your documents that I have used. In a summary of the problem given to you, we presented 13 reasons why Saligaokars want the mobile tower shifted to a safe place (see attachment on press_summary). Saligaokars? did anyone oppose the tower in Tony Rex property. I know a few who do not agree with your view does that means they are not Saligaokars? You contradict yourself when you say you did not ask the tower to be moved 500 mts away and here you say moved to a safe place. In that particular document, our stand is very clear: "We have no objection to a tower. But we want it shifted to a safe location, at least 500 mts. from residential areas." This is in keeping with a Gram Sabha resolution passed on the 19 Feb. 2012. We have even pointed out 2 such safe alternate sites, out in the fields, well away from all human habitation. Please see this statement in light of my point that Goa needs a generating station, if every Gram Sabha takes this views where will we go for power, In that case we need not bother about tower as there will be no power to charge the cell phones and therefore no need for towers. The TN, CM has already set the ball rolling by stating that she wants 100% of the nuclear power generated in her State. By the way how many of those who voted against the tower are willing to give up their cell phones, I clearly stated I would appreciate your agitation if you all said that we do not want the tower it is bad for health and therefore we are giving up our cell phones. If there is no demand for cell phones there is no need for towers. Are you sure the safe sites have no human habitation around then or have no settlement zones which will be inhabited later. Will the tower look prettier in these safe sites? It is difficult to understand why you should have twisted this to mean, that we do not want the tower in our backyard, and that it should be shifted into someone else's. We have never ever taken such a stand and there is nothing in the documentation I gave you, to even remotely suggest such a position. Mario, really now. You are now saying you do not want the tower, you deny saying to me that it can move to the fields...... That press_summary dtd. 14 March, succinctly articulates the entire case of the communities protesting the present location of the Delaney Tower. It is surprising that a columnist of your technological stature should fall so short of journalistic ethics when writing about well documented and scientific facts given to you, in black and white. To reduce Saligao's entire case to one of "Not-In-My-Back-Yard (NIMBY)" is nothing short of pure mischief and an inexpensive way to find a topic for your column! Mario, this is not Saligao's case. There is a tower at Tony Rex's place. Those people around are from where? Two, I am not talking about Saligao, I am talking about Goa's development and the Abreu Vaddo tower case represents the NIMBY to the hilt. I do not need anyone's research to write my columns, despite the fact that given my work schedule and involvement in many social causes it would be easy to use someone else's thinking and documents. Ofcourse on the other hand it is preposterous for you to assume that just because you did lots of research it is to be accepted by all thinking individuals without question? Till today, no one has had the scholarship, scientific temper or the plain courage to study that document with all its references, engage the village in a debate about it, or very simply refute the positions on which the community case is based. Like you have bravely attempted in your article, many over the last 9 weeks, have taken random pot shots, misrepresented scientific fact, beaten around the bush, tried to divert everyone's attention with colourful distractions, frustratedly descended into 'tantrumy' name calling and mud slinging...or quite plainly caught the bull by the tail! Mudslinging...you did that in your previous para, where you made nasty comments on my writings. I have tried to avoid dropping to the same level. I, agree with your view, the information should be given to all but not many read or do their own study. So it is left to people like you who can take a message across. However once you have given your information, let the receiver decide one way or the other. Unfortunately I get the impression that you believe that if anyone does not support the "NO TOWER" option he is anti Mario. I am not anti Mario.I simply agree to disagree with you on this point. But if you really have Goa's development at heart, if you have the scientific temper to examine the evidence, if you have the patience to study the issue as it exists in Goa today, then as we have done with the Tower Team and their few supporters, we challenge you to seriously revisit the documentation we gave you and discuss the issue threadbare. Boss, to question my credentials or my love for Goa India because I do not agree with your position is simply untenable. My family has lost land in Verna for what is termed as development. I have fought initially single handedly and then with the support of a very courageous NGO, (GOA STATE INDUSTRIES ASSOCIATION) to stop the rape of our industrial estates by the MLA who belonged to the ruling Congress. This despite opposition from my wife who feared for my life. Why did I do it? To get more money for my self? To get land for myself? No simply because I believed goans had sacrificed land for the development of Goa (my father is one of them) and their sacrifice was being spat upon by corrupt elements. I wanted that their sacrifice not be in vain. We have made the difference and that is for Goa. Therefore when I hear a person who is simply fighting for a cause that purely benefits a few, and these few question my credentials I am not going to sit and take such nonsense lying down. I am not some retired guy with no work, I have a business to run and kids to bring up and I do what I think I can for the love of Goa and India. So please do not dare try and blackmail me into supporting your irrelevant cause by equating it to some patriotic duty. As far as the debate goes, there is no point. Your point is well taken. However I repeat give up your phones and stick to land lines. I will back your cause. No one is against development, Blaise. Exactly as long as it is NOT IN MY BACKYARD All we are saying is: make it participative, sustainable, pro-people, pro-earth, conservational. Make it just! Not pro-profit and pro-greed. Not selfish. Not exploitative! Please examine the your statements above. Are you saying if the profit is shared so as not to be exploitative it is ok. Participative, you and all your supporters want the use of the cell phone, so you must have a tower. Where would you put the tower?. Why was no objection or research done when a tower was raised at Tony Rex's place.......simple it was not in my backyard. I rest my case. Warm regards. 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