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Hi Annette .

Hope there will be many more messages like yours/mine pouring in.

Here in London last night I spoke with friends from Saligao ( ex Britto's)
one of whom happens to be heading out tonight on a private trip and expects
that he will be @ the funeral .


Best

TF.


This below was sent out earlier via Goanet .

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*An inspirational pillar of his generation passes on* .

Whilst I was was never a student of his , I did have the pleasure of knowing
his immediate family especially Yvette , Kevin, Patsy who are more or less
of my generation, as also his nephews/nieces  Dean , Kenneth et al. to name
but a few .

There was always a gracious warm welcome in the ever bustling household that
was "Chez Saldanha" . I for one will always remember his unstinting
generosity with his time , such as in instructing us , not just in the
basics of say  " reef knots" , but also in the finer points of survival
tactics, orienteering etc @ Scout /Guide Camps and Jambooree's in Mapuca and
Salmona. Over the years and even today, these still stand by me in good
stead as does the Scout motto : "BE PREPARED" .

It was his treasure trove archive of back issues of the National Geographic,
that he generously allowed us village kids , to browse though , that
inspired so many of us to gain a wider global perspective , in a world
before TV had arrived in Goa and the internet was way beyond our global ken.


I think Rico for one , will back me up on this :)

We raise our hat to you !

Fare thee well Sir, on your final "safari" to a place where the wildebeest
and the buffalo still wander forever free,  across those wide open spaces !


In empathy with the family , friends and fans of a man who always marched
that extra bit faster to the stirring strident beat of a different "dhol"
and the track undiscovered .


A.Anthony FERNANDES

(Donvaddo / currently London U.K based )
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On 11/08/07, Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरोनया] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
> Our condolences to the relatives, specially members of Saligaonet.
> Kevin told me in a chat that the funeral is likely to be on Aug 16,
> 2007 (Thursday). FN
>
> Edwin Saldanha husband late Phyllis Saldanha, father of
> Yvette/Dinesh D'Souza (Canada), Kevin/Lisette Saldanha
> (Canada), Patricia (Patsy)/Frederick(Freddy) Nazareth
> (Canada), Jennifer(Jenny)/Mark Fernandes (USA), Daphne/Deryck
> Desouza (Canada); Brother of Rev. Father Ernest Saldanha (Don
> Bosco's Panaji), late Freddy/Alda Saldanha, Lira/John D'Cruz,
> Bertha/lateVictor, Anna.
>
> Grandfather of Andrew, Alex, Emmy, Cathy, Daniel, Jessica and
> Ian. Brother in law of late Eugene/Helen D'cruz, Emily/late
> Crescencio Coelho, Cissy/Alfie Cordiero, Cleo D'cruz. Uncle
> of Gregory, Hubert, Roland; Charlie, Doreen, Rev. Fr.
> Dominic, Magaret, Francis, Carolyn; Dean, Kirk, Quentin,
> Kenneth, Christopher, Tina, Elaine; Karen and Jason?
>
> He was born in Entebbe, Uganda on April 29, 1918 and passed
> away on August 9th 2007 at JMJ, Porvorim, Goa.
>
> * * * * *
>
> Below is an article that I felt very priviledged to write... focussing
> on an interesting personality. As Sr Lily of Lourdes Convent
> commented, "Mr Saldanha was someone who used all his talents to the
> full." I couldn't help agreeing more. If only we could translate
> concepts like "development" to mean human development, then Goa could
> be a different place....
>
> PORTRAIT OF THE ARTIST... AS A WINE-MAKER
>
> By Frederick Noronha
> fred at bytesforall dot org
>
> He has played many roles in life: scout-master, artist,
> teacher, a Jesuit... but none so unusual as that of being a
> wine-maker. Edwin Saldanha's book on the subject, which he
> penned without much thought due to the badgering of some
> friends, has not only entered a second edition but also
> promises to block no secrets about this unusual art.
>
> "Let me boast a little," says Saligao-based Saldanha, now
> 85-years-old. "My book is the only one in the whole world
> that tells you how to make wine from tropical fruits." For
> instance, it has recipes on how to make wine from mangoes,
> bananas, cashews, and even the local fruit known as kokum
> (bindnna) or jambul.
>
> Secrets of successful wine-making are considered to form an
> ancient tradition, which has often been closely-guarded by
> many cultures. But Saldanha's 'Successful Goan Home Wines'
> says it "exposes these secrets to amateurs through...
> time-tested techniques".
>
> Appreciation has come in from far and wide. When this writer
> wrote a review of an earlier edition for a newspaper in
> Bangalore, the publisher said orders came in for over 70
> copies of the unusual title.
>
> "Some boys from South Africa tasted it and said it really
> tastes like sherry (the blended, fortified wine from Spain
> that varies from very light to dark brown in colour). Yet it
> was wine made from the cheapest possible fruit you could use
> in Goa -- cashew."
>
> One lady from Germany brought in cream of sherry. "Believe it
> or not, it's no different from my wine," says Saldanha.
>
> This octogenarian former schoolteacher at St Britto's
> (Mapusa) and earlier a prominent scout-master in the Goa
> scouting movement, has a strange story of how this book came
> to be. "This book saw the light of day because of Dr
> Nandkumar Kamat (a microbiologist and environmentalist from
> Goa, deeply interested in researching various aspects of
> local life)," he says, and narrates how he was egged on to
> put his knowledge on paper.
>
> It happened that he was recovering from an operation, when Dr
> Kamat dropped in for a visit with a government official. On
> being offered a glass of wine, the visitors were intrigued
> over how it was made. "They begged me to put down on paper
> how it was done, before I die," says Saldanha.
>
> He put together a rough manuscript, which they polished up.
> "My biggest surprise was when they came after a month, with
> the artwork, and clicked a photograph of myself, in a new
> shirt, for the back-cover (of the first edition that came out
> half-a-dozen years ago)."
>
> Saldanha's wine-making skills run deep.
>
> "I've make wine from everything. One journalist asked me,
> *'Uncle, what don't* you make wine from?" says Saldanha, who
> *jokes that this can be done
> even from the soles of old shoes! "I've been making wine as a boy of 13 or
> 14. My mother too was interested in wine-making," says he.
>
> Saldanha, at one stage in his life, joined the Catholic
> religious order of the Jesuits. Based in Belgaum, outside
> Goa, the Jesuits then were caught in the cross-fire between
> unfriendly ties between India and Portuguese-ruled colonial
> Goa. So, they needed to make their own religious wine for
> mass, since supplies from Goa were then blocked.
>
> This was done in a roundabout way. In those days, India
> didn't have grape orchards. So, dry raisins were imported
> from Greece. These were soaked in wooden barrels, to make
> wine. "It's very simple. Dry raisins kept in boiling water,
> stored overnight, act much like grapes do (in the wine-making
> process)," he points out.
>
> In his view, the easiest fruit from which to make wine is, of
> course, grapes. "There's the right proportion of yeast and
> sugar in grapes."
>
> His own story gives an insight into the history of Goan
> migration, even in the early and mid-twentieth century.
>
> Saldanha was born in Entebbe, in colonial East Africa. "That
> time there were no schools there, and parents used to send us
> to a European lady to learn our ABC. At the age of eight, I
> was sent to Goa to do my primary education, and got stuck
> here till 1949," he recalls, memory razor-sharp.
>
> Later, he went back to spend two decades in East Africa. But,
> he says sardonically, "By then, all the trees which used to
> grow gold coins had already been shaken. Kenya was beginning
> to fight for Uhuru (or freedom... and things were getting
> tough for the many Goan emigrants in that region)."
>
> Saldanha quotes his Canada-based veterinarian son Kevin as
> saying there's good demand for the book among even just
> relatives and friends in that part of the globe.
> Incidentally, cities like Toronto have a Goan population that
> runs into a few thousands, but all buyers of the book need
> not necessarily be Goan. Even though the Rs 60 book (in it
> second edition, now out, it's priced at Rs 80) is could
> easily be sold for five Canadian dollars a copy.
>
> Someone reported back that they picked up the wine-making
> book from a railway book-shop in Sydney, Australia.
> "Something which I did just as a past-time has turned out to
> be quite a success," says he, with a tinge of pride.
>
> But what was his motivation?
>
> "Every man and woman would like to do something which could
> help other people. We should not die before we do something
> for the improvement or happiness of others," he suggests.
>
> Most wine-makers, unfortunately,  believe that their secrets
> should never be let out "because (they say) if too many keep
> trying to make wine, you get sour wine," says Saldanha.
>
> What makes wine different from, say, whiskey or liqueur? Wine
> is not distilled. It is fermented, and the sugar in the fruit
> is converted to alcohol, says Saldanha.
>
> Women tend to prefer sweet wine, so sugar can be added -- in
> a process known as 'doctoring' the wine. "There's no secret I
> know that I've knowingly kept out of this book," says he,
> with a touch of pride about his openness in sharing
> information and knowledge. A Dutch friend, visiting this
> octogenarian-winemaker, commented that this attitude indeed
> reflected 'open source' -- keeping knowledge free for being
> transmitted to whoever can use it.
>
> "You just try making one of the most unusual types of wines
> mentioned -- wine made of milk. Do try it," he challenges.
> Even scientists said it never occurred to them that milk,
> when curdled, could be used to make wine, he says. (There are
> two recipes for 'milk wine' in this book, and one requires
> the use of condensed milk with sweet limes, sugar, nutmeg, a
> little Vodka and other spices like cloves and cinnamon.
>
> "Any young educated person can set up a complete industry by
> making wines on a large scale. It was only when I visited
> Canada (to visit children abroad) that I understood what
> 'large-scale' really means. They have 50 barrels of a hundred
> gallons each, every day. Everything there is mechanised," he
> says.
>
> Saldanha narrates how he managed to trace recipes of
> wine-making from a priest in Nachinola village, even as these
> closely guarded recipes were almost being consigned to the
> flames after the latter's death. "After he had died, his
> sister-in-law was burning up all his 'useless' papers. In
> that was one of the recipes," says he.
>
> Saldanha says that places like Goa -- with its one-time
> Portuguese influence -- had a tradition where affluent women
> retained closely-guarded secrets on making wine. "They don't
> sell it, but only use it for festivals and feasts, and make
> it in small quantities."
>
> Other visitors to Goa also vouch that they've consumed wine,
> at some coastal restaurants in South Goa villages like
> Benaulim, which was home-made.
>
> Saldanha believes that some distillers of Goa's traditional
> -- liquors including the traditional-brew feni -- use an
> adulterating chemical substance popularly called 'navsagar'
> or diluted industrial alcohol to produce more. This is done
> with little regard for the health of those consuming it.
>
> "Liquor being sold at Rs 30-40 per bottle is probably made by
> adding Navsagar", says he. "Some of the feni you get in
> beautiful bottles with beautiful labels could actually be
> poison. More genuine liquor should be higher priced," says
> he.
>
> He says some friends were urging him to write a book on
> cooking next. "My style of cooking is to dump in some leaves
> or whatever I can lay my hands on. Provided it tastes good.
> And if it doesn't taste good, just add one Maggi cube," he
> says with his sardonic sense of humour and the twinkle in his
> eye. For someone who encountered Saldanha as a wide-eyed
> 12-year-old schoolboy, the problem remains that one simply
> doesn't know when to take him seriously.
>
> It might be a really good idea, we suggested.
>
> "Oh, no," said he. "I've reached a stage where enough is
> enough. I'm angry with that fellow upstairs. Because I've got
> a passport, but no visa," he complains with mock ire.
>
> "'He' says there's no need for artists up there. But then, I
> say, who'll paint all those images of the many saints in
> heaven," he said, betraying some hints of enjoying the joke.
>
> Saldanha argues that a tiny bit of wine is healthy, specially
> after one crosses two-score and ten. "(It's not good) for
> those young boys falling down in gutters near the bars," says
> he. His advice: a small 40 to 60 milliliter peg, taken at
> food time, and well diluted for someone above 50. This, he
> believes, could help digestion and circulation. (ENDS)
>
> --
> Saligao-based Frederick Noronha is Goa's most high profile
> journalist in cyberspace. This interview was done with Edwin
> Saldanha some five years ago.
>
> This article is published under the
> Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.5 license. See
> http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.5/ (c)
> Frederick Noronha. 2006. Some rights reserved.
>
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On 12/08/07, ANNETTE D'SOUZA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> We were very sorry to hear of the sad demise of Mr. Edwin Saldanha.  His
> passing away will be a great loss to his children & their respective
> families (Yvette, Kevin, Patsy, Jenny & Daphne) and we pray that God gives
> them the strength to bear their loss.  Our thoughts and prayers are with
> the
> Saldanha family for the eternal repose of his soul.
>
> We knew Mr. Saldanha quite well, Luwell because of his association with
> St.
> Britto.  I, because of my chatting to him at Peggy's Corner whilst waiting
> for the Mapusa bus to go my way.  At first glance, he seemed stern, ...
> the
> teacher's quiet looks & dignified aura,... but on chatting with him, I
> changed my mind.... I found him to be a very pleasant, kind &
> knowledgeable
> gentleman.  Also saw his strength & that of Yvette when the family needed
> them most at the time of Patsy's ordeal. Wish I had known about his
> winemaking abilities earlier, only got to know about this on reading
> Rico's
> article some time ago.  I loved homemade wines & have seen our friends
> make
> the same.  Oh well, it's too late now as I am no longer able to taste nor
> drink wine. But I'm sure Mr. Saldanha has written down the recipe
> somewhere
> for others to follow ...as I recall, isnt there some book written?
>
> Once again, we convey our heartfelt sympathy to the  bereaved  family. May
> his soul rest in peace.
>
>
> Annette, Luwell & Ashley
>
>
>
> >From: "Frederick Noronha [फ़रेदरिक नोरोनया]"
>
> >Our condolences to the relatives, specially members of Saligaonet.
> >Kevin told me in a chat that the funeral is likely to be on Aug 16,
> >2007 (Thursday). FN
>
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