first think, then mail

everyone would get every hour the status.

sorry for this stupid suggestion.

Michael


> -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von:  Klug, Michael 
> Gesendet am:  Donnerstag, 5. September 2002 13:44
> An:   '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Betreff:      AW: [SA-list] 
> 
> maybe it's possible to solve the problem at this way:
> 
> The person's scheduler is splitted to full hours for smtp and pager
> notification.
> Every full hour a routine can query the status of the hosts and
> 'simulates' SA a status change when the status is down. 
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
>       -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
>       Von:    Dirk Bulinckx [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       Gesendet am:    Donnerstag, 5. September 2002 13:23
>       An:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       Betreff:        RE: [SA-list] 
> 
>       This would mean that for each person we would have to keep a queue
> for each
>       entry...don't think we're going to do that.
> 
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> 
> 
>       dirk.
> 
> 
> 
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
>       Behalf Of Jack Lyons (Martin Agency)
>       Sent: Thu Sep 05 12:31 PM
>       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       Subject: Re: [SA-list]
> 
> 
>       can you keep track of the state between don't send times...i.e. at
> 5pm when
>       the send option period ends...you have 3 hosts down.   at 6am when
> the send
>       option period starts, salive looks at the state at 5pm and compares
> it to
>       the current status, and emails the difference.
> 
>       Jack
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: "Dirk Bulinckx" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 5:18 AM
>       Subject: RE: [SA-list]
> 
> 
>       > that would mean going over all entry's and rechecking all people
> that are
>       > within the alerts.
>       > Also the "don't alert" thing can be different for each person, so
> when
>       > should we check it?
>       >
>       > Don't forget to vote for Servers Alive in the annual Sunbelt
> Target Awards
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>       >
>       >
>       > dirk.
>       >
>       >
>       >
>       > -----Original Message-----
>       > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
>       > Behalf Of David Walters
>       > Sent: Thu Sep 05 11:14 AM
>       > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>       > Subject: RE: [SA-list]
>       >
>       >
>       > why cant you do a speical check when "dont alert" time has
> finished . im
>       not
>       > sure how you can do it.. but perhaps a status check?
>       >
>       > -----Original Message-----
>       > From: Dirk Bulinckx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       > Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2002 5:10 PM
>       > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       > Subject: RE: [SA-list]
>       >
>       >
>       > If the entry went down during the "don't alert" time it looks like
> it got
>       > dropped yes, but basicly SA sends the message to the address/phone
> you
>       > defined and if within that definition you say that it should send
> during
>       > specific hours that's what it does, just doesn't send it.
>       > Don't think queing is a solution in this.
>       > You could have different aler and different outputs, each showing
> a
>       correct
>       > status, you will have to use those too.
>       >
>       >
>       > Don't forget to vote for Servers Alive in the annual Sunbelt
> Target Awards
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>       >
>       >
>       > dirk.
>       >
>       >
>       >
>       > -----Original Message-----
>       > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
>       > Behalf Of Klug, Michael
>       > Sent: Thu Sep 05 11:05 AM
>       > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>       > Subject: AW: [SA-list]
>       >
>       >
>       > I see the problem.
>       > SA drops the message in the 'don't alert' cycle.
>       > What we need is that SA queues the messages and deletes the
> messages when
>       > the host comes up in the 'don't alert' cyle from the queue and
> sends the
>       > queued messages at the end of the 'don't alert' cycle.
>       >
>       >
>       > > -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
>       > > Von: Dirk Bulinckx [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       > > Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 5. September 2002 10:16
>       > > An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       > > Betreff: RE: [SA-list]
>       > >
>       > > SA is checking all the time.
>       > > If you set SA to alert (paging for example) on status change it
> will try
>       > > to
>       > > send the page when the status change, however if due to the
> schedule of
>       > > the
>       > > person that you're sending the page too SA isn't allowed to send
> the
>       page,
>       > > the page won't be send.  On a next down situation (next cycle or
> the 50
>       > > cycle further when the entry is still down), SA will see that it
> only
>       has
>       > > to
>       > > send on status change and won't try to send.  SA will first
> check the
>       > > "send
>       > > option" (status change, all downs, after 5 downs or whatever you
> have
>       > > set),
>       > > if it has to send it will send.  And during the send SA will
> convert the
>       > > team/person name(s) to addresses/phonenumbers and at that time
> it could
>       be
>       > > that due to a persons schedule that it get's no address/phone
> back and
>       > > thus
>       > > doesn't send.
>       > >
>       > >
>       > > Don't forget to vote for Servers Alive in the annual Sunbelt
> Target
>       Awards
>       > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/targetawards/
>       > >
>       > >
>       > > dirk.
>       > >
>       > >
>       > >
>       > > -----Original Message-----
>       > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
>       > > Behalf Of David Walters
>       > > Sent: Thu Sep 05 10:03 AM
>       > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>       > > Subject: RE: [SA-list]
>       > >
>       > >
>       > > wouldnt it be better servered for SA to recheck them when the
> 'dont
>       alert'
>       > > has finished tho within SA?
>       > >
>       > > -----Original Message-----
>       > > From: Klug, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       > > Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2002 2:55 PM
>       > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>       > > Subject: AW: [SA-list]
>       > >
>       > >
>       > > I've the same prob.
>       > > I'm using this workaround:
>       > > After the non paging cycle i kill the sa-process and open sa
> again using
>       a
>       > > task scheduler.
>       > > It works fine if you have not a lot of non paging cycles for
> different
>       > > hosts. Only your down/up statistics are wrong.
>       > >
>       > > Michael
>       > >
>       > > Michael Klug
>       > > Lufthansa AirPlus Servicekarten GmbH
>       > > Network & Internet Services
>       > > Dornhofstr. 36
>       > > 63263 Neu-Isenburg
>       > > > Phone:  +49 (0) 61 02 204-220
>       > > > Fax:      +49 (0) 61 02 204-759
>       > > > E-Mail:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       > > > Internet: www.airplus.com
>       > > >
>       > > > -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
>       > > > Von: David Walters [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       > > > Gesendet am: Donnerstag, 5. September 2002 07:51
>       > > > An: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>       > > > Betreff: RE: [SA-list]
>       > > >
>       > > >  'dont alert for these times'
>       > > >
>       > > > Id like SA to send a message if the service is down once the
> 'dont
>       alert
>       > > > for
>       > > > these times' has finished
>       > > >
>       > > >
>       > > >
>       > > > -----Original Message-----
>       > > > From: Dirk Bulinckx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>       > > > Sent: Thursday, 5 September 2002 1:17 PM
>       > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       > > > Subject: RE: [SA-list]
>       > > >
>       > > >
>       > > > What send option are you using?
>       > > >
>       > > > You mean that if SA goes down in the non-paging hours, and is
> still
>       down
>       > > > during the paging hours that you would like to get a page?
> That's not
>       > > > possible (except if it has to page you on all down cycles)
> You could
>       > > > however using another alert type during these other hours.
>       > > >
>       > > > Don't forget to vote for Servers Alive in the annual Sunbelt
> Target
>       > > Awards
>       > > > http://www.sunbelt-software.com/targetawards/
>       > > >
>       > > >
>       > > > dirk.
>       > > >
>       > > >
>       > > >
>       > > > -----Original Message-----
>       > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
>       > > > Behalf Of David Walters
>       > > > Sent: Thu Sep 05 5:45 AM
>       > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>       > > > Subject: [SA-list]
>       > > >
>       > > >
>       > > > Currently I have SA alertin me when the server is down via sms
> between
>       > > > certain hours... say 6pm-9pm    now if the server goes down
> between
>       the
>       > > > hours of 9pm-7am  I have to remind myself to check.
>       > > >
>       > > > is there a way to get SA to alert me if still down when the
> hours are
>       > > back
>       > > > to 7am - 6pm ?
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