Just so we don't confuse the issue, servers alive tells me my isdn is "Down"
(in reality in means the isdn link is up or connected, which is what I want
to be warned about)

Jack

I have a mixture of Cisco 3640, 2509, 2621 7509, 800

The oid is the same up to this point

1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.8.

After that, the interface number for the last digit changes depending on how
many interfaces are in the router and what number the isdn channels are
given.

ON some, eg 800 it's 2 & 3 after the 8 above BRI0/0:1 & BRI0/0:2 , 1 being
the BRI0/0 Link access Protocol D

Full length - 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.8.2
ON another router, the last digit is 12 & 13.

I ended up double checking entry numbers by bringing the link up and
individually checking the entries using the check button (the little icon
with 5 computers bottom right on the setup of entry Checks\SNMP panel.  Some
of the routers returned a 5 when up, some returned a 2, again it depended on
what model of router.  Once the link was up and I had the value, my check
was then via SNMP to alert me as down when the return value was not = to 2

By checking both sides of the router, I am alerted by servers alive that my
T1 is down (which puts the isdn BRI checks into down on the remote side, but
also tells me when back up and routing at both ends across isdn.  Then the
reverse status when all comes back up.  Lets not address dependencies, that
is dependant on your topology and location of the servers alive box.  I've
only chosen the critical items to SMS to me (in case I'm out for the
evening) on downs and ups (since we run VPN over internet, there are
occasionally some little flaps occurring form time to time bringing the isdn
up, although dialler time schedules help stop that over the weekend and
evenings)

Hope this helps and we can put this one to rest

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Dirk Bulinckx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, 11 December 2002 23:18
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [SA-list] Checking ISDN backup interface.


The B channels of the ISDN?  If they are down, then the ISDN connection is
actualy not running.  So if you would check these via SA, you could get an
alert when they are not down (aka UP).


dirk.



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Jack Lyons
Sent: Wed Dec 11 11:13 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [SA-list] Checking ISDN backup interface.


When I check the status of
.iso.org.dod.internet.mgmt.mib-2.interfaces.ifTable.ifEntry.ifOperStatus for
the BRI3/3 interface it returns a value of 5 which I assume means it is up
(spoofing).  I assume it will go to status up when it is actually connected.

I also noticed that I can monitor both B-channels independently and they are
both listed as down?

Jack

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jack Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 5:09 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] Checking ISDN backup interface.
>
> This is a good point.  I did get burned when I first installed the 
> ISDN backup.  The T1 was down for 3 days, but I had defined NTP as 
> interesting traffic, so for 3 days the ISDN line stayed up due to NTP 
> traffic, even though the night.
>
> I will give try changing the OID to match the interface status.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Peter Hoermann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 4:17 PM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: [SA-list] Checking ISDN backup interface.
> >
> > also,
> >
> > just cause I been thinking about it
> >
> > the way you've done it, both links could still be up, but the metric
> would
> > route packets via t1 and not isdn, therefore isdn could well be
> connected,
> > but still return an "up" in servers alive, since the route as far as 
> > its concerned is good, which has nothing to do with the isdn 
> > interface being up or down
> >
> > sorry to harp, but I use isdn as our links between our European 
> > offices and used to do a trace from servers alive using a batch file 
> > and look for an ip
> > address in that trace (being the isdn interface ip add on that router),
> > but
> > as I found out when I got the isdn bill on one router which kept the
> link
> > up
> > (but the route as far as servers alive was good - hence returning an
> up),
> > it
> > wasn't really a reliable check for an isdn interface on a router 
> > (considering the slap I gave myself on the wrist when I had to 
> > justify
> the
> > cost to my manager - for what? for nothing!)
> >
> > Peter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jack Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, 11 December 2002 21:56
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: [SA-list] Checking ISDN backup interface.
> >
> >
> > I was working on this solution when I got your email.  I still had 
> > the problem of the interface appearing up even when not connected - 
> > the
> value
> > for
> > .iso.org.dod.internet.mgmt.mib-
> 2.interfaces.ifTable.ifEntry.ifAdminStatus
> > showed up for the ISDN interface.
> >
> > After thinking about it and poking around in GETIF, I found the
> following
> > OID that seems like it will work.  For each route, it has a the 
> > ifIndex
> of
> > the interface that the packets will go out of to get to that
> destination.
> > I
> > have created a SNMP check for the specific route and set it to alarm
> when
> > the interface is set to the BRI interface.
> >
> > .iso.org.dod.internet.mgmt.mib- 
> > 2.ip.ipRouteTable.ipRouteEntry.ipRouteIfIndex
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Peter Hoermann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 3:09 PM
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: [SA-list] Checking ISDN backup interface.
> > >
> > > snmp Jack, use getif to get the oid.  You can check the specific 
> > > bri interface Peter
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jack Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:58
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: [SA-list] Checking ISDN backup interface.
> > >
> > >
> > > I have Servers Alive monitoring a router on the remote end of a 
> > > T1. I have an ISDN backup to that router, so if the line goes down 
> > > it is picked up by the ISDN backup.
> > >
> > > I want servers alive to be able to monitor the ISDN link, but I 
> > > can't
> > ping
> > > the ip address of the ISDN link because it will appear up all the
> time.
> > >
> > > I started working on a batch file that did a tracert and find
> commands,
> > > but
> > > I was wondering if anyone had a smoother solution
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Jack
> > >
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