I will do some testing to verify the values when the line is up or not, but
I think I have it correct now.

Thanks for your help.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Hoermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002 5:01 AM
Subject: RE: [SA-list] Checking ISDN backup interface.


> Just so we don't confuse the issue, servers alive tells me my isdn is
"Down"
> (in reality in means the isdn link is up or connected, which is what I
want
> to be warned about)
>
> Jack
>
> I have a mixture of Cisco 3640, 2509, 2621 7509, 800
>
> The oid is the same up to this point
>
> 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.8.
>
> After that, the interface number for the last digit changes depending on
how
> many interfaces are in the router and what number the isdn channels are
> given.
>
> ON some, eg 800 it's 2 & 3 after the 8 above BRI0/0:1 & BRI0/0:2 , 1 being
> the BRI0/0 Link access Protocol D
>
> Full length - 1.3.6.1.2.1.2.2.1.8.2
> ON another router, the last digit is 12 & 13.
>
> I ended up double checking entry numbers by bringing the link up and
> individually checking the entries using the check button (the little icon
> with 5 computers bottom right on the setup of entry Checks\SNMP panel.
Some
> of the routers returned a 5 when up, some returned a 2, again it depended
on
> what model of router.  Once the link was up and I had the value, my check
> was then via SNMP to alert me as down when the return value was not = to 2
>
> By checking both sides of the router, I am alerted by servers alive that
my
> T1 is down (which puts the isdn BRI checks into down on the remote side,
but
> also tells me when back up and routing at both ends across isdn.  Then the
> reverse status when all comes back up.  Lets not address dependencies,
that
> is dependant on your topology and location of the servers alive box.  I've
> only chosen the critical items to SMS to me (in case I'm out for the
> evening) on downs and ups (since we run VPN over internet, there are
> occasionally some little flaps occurring form time to time bringing the
isdn
> up, although dialler time schedules help stop that over the weekend and
> evenings)
>
> Hope this helps and we can put this one to rest
>
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dirk Bulinckx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, 11 December 2002 23:18
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] Checking ISDN backup interface.
>
>
> The B channels of the ISDN?  If they are down, then the ISDN connection is
> actualy not running.  So if you would check these via SA, you could get an
> alert when they are not down (aka UP).
>
>
> dirk.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Jack Lyons
> Sent: Wed Dec 11 11:13 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: [SA-list] Checking ISDN backup interface.
>
>
> When I check the status of
> .iso.org.dod.internet.mgmt.mib-2.interfaces.ifTable.ifEntry.ifOperStatus
for
> the BRI3/3 interface it returns a value of 5 which I assume means it is up
> (spoofing).  I assume it will go to status up when it is actually
connected.
>
> I also noticed that I can monitor both B-channels independently and they
are
> both listed as down?
>
> Jack
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jack Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 5:09 PM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: RE: [SA-list] Checking ISDN backup interface.
> >
> > This is a good point.  I did get burned when I first installed the
> > ISDN backup.  The T1 was down for 3 days, but I had defined NTP as
> > interesting traffic, so for 3 days the ISDN line stayed up due to NTP
> > traffic, even though the night.
> >
> > I will give try changing the OID to match the interface status.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Peter Hoermann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 4:17 PM
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: [SA-list] Checking ISDN backup interface.
> > >
> > > also,
> > >
> > > just cause I been thinking about it
> > >
> > > the way you've done it, both links could still be up, but the metric
> > would
> > > route packets via t1 and not isdn, therefore isdn could well be
> > connected,
> > > but still return an "up" in servers alive, since the route as far as
> > > its concerned is good, which has nothing to do with the isdn
> > > interface being up or down
> > >
> > > sorry to harp, but I use isdn as our links between our European
> > > offices and used to do a trace from servers alive using a batch file
> > > and look for an ip
> > > address in that trace (being the isdn interface ip add on that
router),
> > > but
> > > as I found out when I got the isdn bill on one router which kept the
> > link
> > > up
> > > (but the route as far as servers alive was good - hence returning an
> > up),
> > > it
> > > wasn't really a reliable check for an isdn interface on a router
> > > (considering the slap I gave myself on the wrist when I had to
> > > justify
> > the
> > > cost to my manager - for what? for nothing!)
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jack Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, 11 December 2002 21:56
> > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > Subject: RE: [SA-list] Checking ISDN backup interface.
> > >
> > >
> > > I was working on this solution when I got your email.  I still had
> > > the problem of the interface appearing up even when not connected -
> > > the
> > value
> > > for
> > > .iso.org.dod.internet.mgmt.mib-
> > 2.interfaces.ifTable.ifEntry.ifAdminStatus
> > > showed up for the ISDN interface.
> > >
> > > After thinking about it and poking around in GETIF, I found the
> > following
> > > OID that seems like it will work.  For each route, it has a the
> > > ifIndex
> > of
> > > the interface that the packets will go out of to get to that
> > destination.
> > > I
> > > have created a SNMP check for the specific route and set it to alarm
> > when
> > > the interface is set to the BRI interface.
> > >
> > > .iso.org.dod.internet.mgmt.mib-
> > > 2.ip.ipRouteTable.ipRouteEntry.ipRouteIfIndex
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Peter Hoermann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 3:09 PM
> > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > Subject: RE: [SA-list] Checking ISDN backup interface.
> > > >
> > > > snmp Jack, use getif to get the oid.  You can check the specific
> > > > bri interface Peter
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jack Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:58
> > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > > > Subject: [SA-list] Checking ISDN backup interface.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have Servers Alive monitoring a router on the remote end of a
> > > > T1. I have an ISDN backup to that router, so if the line goes down
> > > > it is picked up by the ISDN backup.
> > > >
> > > > I want servers alive to be able to monitor the ISDN link, but I
> > > > can't
> > > ping
> > > > the ip address of the ISDN link because it will appear up all the
> > time.
> > > >
> > > > I started working on a batch file that did a tracert and find
> > commands,
> > > > but
> > > > I was wondering if anyone had a smoother solution
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Jack
> > > >
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