At 08:44 AM 2/16/2005, you wrote:
Problem is that we can't add everything to SA, that's why we invented the external check(s).
Sure you can. You just need an infinite amount of time. :-)
Actually I thought of what I'd call a "compromise" feature I'd love to see.
One issue I and I think others have had with SA is it's basically "single-threaded" on the checks. So if you have a lot of checks, or worse you have a couple with long timeouts that have to time out before it can continue, it can be minutes before critical checks are performed and the time is not necessarily constant for a run. (i.e. it might normally take 5 minutes to run all your checks, but if you're doing a URL check and have a 30 second time out and a 2nd knock on it, it could take 6 minutes if the URL is failing, etc.)
Would it be possible to have say 2 threads... so you could split up the checking a bit more. Perhaps have 5-10 threads that you want to make sure run every 1 minute or so (real quick things like pings) and the rest run normally. I'd even be willing to give up dependencies between the threads. (i.e. a check in thread 2 can't be dependent on an item in thread 1).
I mean ideally it would be completely multithreaded, but I realized how difficult that really ends up being, so hence this "compromise" suggestion.
Dirk.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vogl, Tom Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:39 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SA-list] Major product checks missing?
A few reasons:
1) The problem with add-on checks is that they typically require quotes around a parameter or two when path names have spaces. These quotes screw-up all sorts of logging and web-output that we are trying to use.
If these checks were done natively to SA, the log and web output could be much cleaner.
2) Occasionally the external checks we are do fail and the utilities used don't handle the problem well (dialog boxes stack up on the screen, etc). Build in, SA would handle errors more cleanly.
3) Isn't this something that is so commonly requested (and not very complicated) that it only adds value to SA? (Stretching I know - but trying. Would really love to see this built in).
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-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dirk Bulinckx Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:14 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SA-list] Major product checks missing?
Why not in an addon?
Dirk.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vogl, Tom Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 5:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [SA-list] Major product checks missing?
How about some file-related checks? Instead of depending on COM or ERRORLEVEL checks, built-in functions for:
SIZE of specific file exceeding/below x COUNT of files matching (parameter) exceeding/below x AGE of specific file older/newer than (x seconds/minutes/hours/days/months)
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-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dirk Bulinckx Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 5:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SA-list] Major product checks missing?
In SA (and add-ons) there are already a lot of checks for most major "products". Things like perfmon/process/service/wins (addon) are typicaly for NT/Win2K/Win2K3 SQL server Oracle mail (mailflow addon) URL (IIS/Apache/...) *nix (diskspace/process both as addon) ...
Anything "major" that is missing?
First thing that jumps to my "mind" is mySQL ... But that's something we're already working on :-) so you don't have to mention that one.
Other ideas are welcome...
Dirk.
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