2 threads or 99 threads is the same issue, if we want to do that for all the
checks, it means very simply rewrite the complete checking part of the app. 


Dirk.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Greg D. Moore
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [SA-list] Major product checks missing?

At 08:44 AM 2/16/2005, you wrote:

>Problem is that we can't add everything to SA, that's why we invented the
>external check(s).


Sure you can.  You just need an infinite amount of time. :-)


Actually I thought of what I'd call a "compromise" feature I'd love to see.

One issue I and I think others have had with SA is it's basically 
"single-threaded" on the checks.  So if you have a lot of checks, or worse 
you have a couple with long timeouts that have to time out before it can 
continue, it can be minutes before critical checks are performed and the 
time is not necessarily constant for a run.  (i.e. it might normally take 5 
minutes to run all your checks, but if you're doing a URL check and have a 
30 second time out and a 2nd knock on it, it could take 6 minutes if the 
URL is failing, etc.)

Would it be possible to have say 2 threads... so you could split up the 
checking a bit more.  Perhaps have 5-10 threads that you want to make sure 
run every 1 minute or so (real quick things like pings) and the rest run 
normally.  I'd even be willing to give up dependencies between the 
threads.  (i.e. a check in thread 2 can't be dependent on an item in thread
1).

I mean ideally it would be completely multithreaded, but I realized how 
difficult that really ends up being, so hence this "compromise" suggestion.




>Dirk.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
>Of Vogl, Tom
>Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:39 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: [SA-list] Major product checks missing?
>
>A few reasons:
>
>1) The problem with add-on checks is that they typically require quotes
>around a parameter or two when path names have spaces.  These quotes
>screw-up all sorts of logging and web-output that we are trying to use.
>
>If these checks were done natively to SA, the log and web output could
>be much cleaner.
>
>2)  Occasionally the external checks we are do fail and the utilities
>used don't handle the problem well (dialog boxes stack up on the screen,
>etc).   Build in, SA would handle errors more cleanly.
>
>3)  Isn't this something that is so commonly requested (and not very
>complicated) that it only adds value to SA?
>(Stretching I know - but trying.  Would really love to see this built
>in).
>
>=tv=
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Dirk Bulinckx
>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:14 AM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: [SA-list] Major product checks missing?
>
>Why not in an addon?
>
>
>
>Dirk.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Vogl, Tom
>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 5:11 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: RE: [SA-list] Major product checks missing?
>
>How about some file-related checks?  Instead of depending on COM or
>ERRORLEVEL checks, built-in functions for:
>
>    SIZE of specific file exceeding/below x
>    COUNT of files matching (parameter) exceeding/below x
>    AGE of specific file older/newer than (x
>seconds/minutes/hours/days/months)
>
>Tom Vogl
>Director of Information Technology
>Leed's
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>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>Behalf Of Dirk Bulinckx
>Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 5:37 PM
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: [SA-list] Major product checks missing?
>
>In SA (and add-ons) there are already a  lot of checks for most major
>"products".
>Things like
>         perfmon/process/service/wins (addon) are typicaly for
>NT/Win2K/Win2K3
>         SQL server
>         Oracle
>         mail (mailflow addon)
>         URL (IIS/Apache/...)
>         *nix (diskspace/process both as addon)
>         ...
>
>Anything "major" that is missing?
>
>First thing that jumps to my "mind" is mySQL ... But that's something
>we're already working on :-) so you don't have to mention that one.
>
>
>
>Other ideas are welcome...
>
>
>
>Dirk.
>
>
>
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