Our Group policy is fairly basic I think. Nothing is logged in the event log when SA goes CPU crazy.
Not sure if it’s relevant but to fix the problem I cannot just stop and restart the SA service as windows complains that the service is not responding. Instead, I have to kill the SA process first and then start the service. This is a problem for us as we have people hopping on and off of servers a lot of the time, usually making tweaks to or adding new SA checks. Steve From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Perry Sent: 11 March 2008 14:31 To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] Latest build of SA is hanging and maxing out the CPU No worries, Dirk I don't suppose you have a debug version of salive up your sleeve to pin point what function is causing this? Are these servers victims of stringent Group Policy settings? Is there anything in your eventlog to indicate failures? The real cause for concern is that salive uses so many system calls it pulls in lots of modules and is likely that the cause is with one of those e.g. on my system salive pulls in all of this: ntdll.dll, kernel32.dll, msvbvm60.dll, USER32.dll, GDI32.dll, ADVAPI32.dll, RPCRT4.dll, Secur32.dll, ole32.dll, msvcrt.dll, OLEAUT32.dll, IMM32.DLL, SXS.DLL, apphelp.dll, msctfime.ime, CLBCatQ.DLL, COMRes.dll, VERSION.dll, wodSSH.ocx, SHELL32.dll, SHLWAPI.dll, WSOCK32.dll, WS2_32.dll, WS2HELP.dll, WINMM.dll, OLEPRO32.DLL, comctl32.dll, rdpsnd.dll, WINSTA.dll, NETAPI32.dll, PSAPI.DLL, mswsock.dll, DNSAPI.dll, winrnr.dll, WLDAP32.dll, rasadhlp.dll, wodsshd.ocx, Comctl32.ocx, COMCTL32.dll, comdlg32.dll, ExTree.dll, msi.dll, xpsp2res.dll, SvcIt.ocx, MFC42u.DLL, WININET.dll, Normaliz.dll, iertutil.dll, ODBC32.dll, odbcint.dll, PSWinCom.dll, comdlg32.ocx, MSComm32.ocx, MSWinSck.ocx, smpp61.ocx, xmpps62.ocx, crypt32.dll, MSASN1.dll, security.dll, SSNMPM~1.OCX, exprint.dll, WINSPOOL.DRV, udppor50.ocx, ND_SNM~1.OCX, MFC42.DLL, IPDAEM~1.OCX, IPPORT~1.OCX, pop50.ocx, snmp50.ocx, snpp50.ocx, https50.ocx, TAPI32.DLL, rtutils.dll, iphlpapi.dll, mpr.dll, ATL.DLL, RASAPI32.DLL, rasman.dll, msv1_0.dll, rsaenh.dll, hnetcfg.dll, wshtcpip.dll, wtsapi32.dll, MSVCP60.dll, perfdata.ocx, wsthread.dll, wsPingThr.dll wsThrTCP.dll, wsTPopup.dll, drprov.dll, ntlanman.dll, NETUI0.dll, NETUI1.dll, SAMLIB.dll, davclnt.dll, TabCtl32.ocx, aschedule2.ocx, msflxgrd.ocx, USERENV.dll MPRAPI.dll, ACTIVEDS.dll, adsldpc.dll, credui.dll, SETUPAPI.dll, msado15.dll, MSDART.DLL, oledb32.dll, OLEDB32R.DLL, comsvcs.dll, msdasql.dll, MSDATL3.dll, MSDASQLR.DLL, SQLSRV32.dll, SQLUNIRL.dll, NDDEAPI.DLL, sqlsrv32.rll, odbccp32.dll, wodCertificate.dll, CRYPTUI.dll, WINTRUST.dll, imagehlp.dll, PERFPR~1.OCX, wodHttp.dll, wsThrSMTP.dll, smtps62.ocx, pops62.ocx, mx61.ocx, netdia61.ocx So this might not be easy to find.... 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Registered address: 7th Floor, Hamilton House, 111 Marlowes, Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire HP1 1BB Registered in England No: 2831215 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Davis Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 2:01 PM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] Latest build of SA is hanging and maxing out the CPU Hi Mark, Thanks for taking the time to respond. 1) I didn’t run your command but I did run a tasklist for all users and serversalive.exe running as SYSTEM is the culprit at 100%, no other SA processes are running. 2) Yes, telephony service is running – this is where I should have paid more attention to previous discussions? 3) The box also hosts SQL 2000 SP4 and Openfire (an XMPP/Jabber server) Steve From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Perry Sent: 11 March 2008 11:51 To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] Latest build of SA is hanging and maxing out the CPU 1. Did you run the tasklist commands ? The reason I put those in is that it might show that a rouge serversalive process running under another users context e.g. another admin running the app by mistake. 2. Also I know it is always said but is the telephony service running, I can't remember if any previous posts mentioned this and it isn't in this mail thread (see below). 3. What other services does this box host that is common to both servers having this issue (presumably you arn't dedicating them to SA)? I'll think of other stuff later, I'm up to my eyes... ;0) Mark Perry Systems & Networks Administrator Telephonetics VIP Ltd “making sound business sense” Simply dial +44 (0)1442 242 242 and ask for me by name. www.telephoneticsVIP.co.uk (http://www.telephoneticsvip.co.uk/) Providing innovative hosted and customer premises speech recognition and voice automation solutions. 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Registered address: 7th Floor, Hamilton House, 111 Marlowes, Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire HP1 1BB Registered in England No: 2831215 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Davis Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2008 11:11 AM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] Latest build of SA is hanging and maxing out the CPU The TS session logs off and disconnects cleanly and when the CPU is maxed out it’s serversalive.exe using 100% From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Perry Sent: 10 March 2008 16:16 To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] Latest build of SA is hanging and maxing out the CPU 1. When you log off have you tried checking the server to see if the ts session has logged off properly, with either ts manager or the query session commands? 2. Can you confirm that it is the salive.exe process specifically? 3. What is the output of (from a non console session during the CPU 100% issue): tasklist /V /FI "SERVICES eq salive" tasklist /V /FI "IMAGENAME eq serversalive.exe" Regards Mark Perry -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Davis Sent: 10 March 2008 15:31 To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] Latest build of SA is hanging and maxing out the CPU Nothing anyone can suggest? From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Davis Sent: 07 March 2008 12:11 To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] Latest build of SA is hanging and maxing out the CPU If I log off with the SA window open AND with SA idle (not checking) the problem is still there. From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Davis Sent: 06 March 2008 21:31 To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] Latest build of SA is hanging and maxing out the CPU I’m connecting with the /console option (the SA icon doesn’t appear when it’s running as a service and you don’t connect to the console) From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Stiller Sent: 06 March 2008 17:46 To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: RE: [SA-list] Latest build of SA is hanging and maxing out the CPU But when you RDP in to the server are you doing so as /console or just a virtual/terminal session? So long as only one instance is spawned in total you should be okay, but it requires a direct or console connect - if you remote in to a virtual desktop it can cause problems. 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