Marian, Now i am sure that this is not working(oplocks=no; veto oplock files=/*.doc/*.xls/) at all with Windows 95. No, there are "none" at oplocks with file locks, when oplocks=no. But, when i put oplocks=no and strict locking=yes, this seems to work(at this time, have to test more; i do not know the performance with strict locking). With these settings Excel still uses oplocks, Word approves "none" for oplocks. I can say this only for now, because the problems are not happening all the time only periodically.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Marian Mlcoch, Ing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Hannu Virtanen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in Samba > 2.0.7 > OK > when you use smbstatus is oplock active on open files in share with > oplocks=no? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hannu Virtanen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Marian Mlcoch, Ing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 12:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in Samba > > 2.0.7 > > > > Marian, > > I mean that i have started from default settings and tried all off these > > with no help. IRIX has maintenance and feature modes for operating system. > > Only feature mode supports kernel oplocks and i have maintenance > > mode and kernel oplocks are not supported so it is same to have them off > or > > on(on gives very many messages to log-file and this is the reason to have > > kernel oplocks = no at this time. I am now trying these parameters at > share > > level(but i do not understand the difference;i will put all to defaults at > > global section and start with oplocks=no at share level or veto oplock > > files). To change oplock break wait time was an advice in web and said to > > help to these kind of problems with Office 97(10 is also old default > > allthough 0 is default for 2.2.6). We have mostly b and c versions of > > windows 95 and by experiment errors concerns more Windows 95b version(i do > > not know any service packs to go to Windows 95c at all 95 machines). > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Marian Mlcoch, Ing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Hannu Virtanen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 4:27 PM > > Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in > Samba > > > 2.0.7 > > > > > > > I dont understand what defaults you mean > > > i use smaba 2.2.6 and its default is > > > level2 oplocks = Yes > > > kernel oplocks = Yes (this two is autodetect by samba and > > kernel > > > support by samba docs IRIX have this but you have set NO???) > > > oplock break wait time = 0 (samba docs write not change this > > > parameter...) > > > > > > you have > > > level2 oplocks = no > > > kernel oplocks = no > > > oplock break wait time = 10 > > > this your setings is default by your system or set in your conf file? > > > > > > By docs oplocks is share parameter that must by defined in share not > > global. > > > best choice is try use veto oplock files= ... and leave oplocks on. > > > > > > And last what version of W95 you use? W95 W95a W95B ? > > > If W95 then you must update to W95a by service pack from microsoft www. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Hannu Virtanen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:15 PM > > > Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in > > Samba > > > > 2.0.7 > > > > > > > > > > Marian, > > > > All of those are default settings and have been tested not to help. > But > > > why > > > > can i not put oplocks = no, what is standard advice with these kind of > > > > problems. > > > > > > > > Hannu > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Marian Mlcoch, Ing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "Hannu Virtanen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 12:50 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 in > > > Samba > > > > > 2.0.7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try set this > > > > > > > > > > level2 oplocks = Yes > > > > > kernel oplocks = Yes > > > > > > > > > > only experimentally. > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Hannu Virtanen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 9:34 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 > in > > > > Samba > > > > > > 2.0.7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marian, > > > > > > Thank for You response. Here is my smb.conf: > > > > > > > > > > > > Load smb config files from /usr/samba/lib/smb.conf > > > > > > Processing section "[homes]" > > > > > > Processing section "[printers]" > > > > > > Processing section "[nem]" > > > > > > Processing section "[ohj]" > > > > > > Processing section "[proj]" > > > > > > Processing section "[print$]" > > > > > > Processing section "[nemadmin]" > > > > > > Loaded services file OK. > > > > > > # Global parameters > > > > > > [global] > > > > > > coding system = > > > > > > client code page = 850 > > > > > > code page directory = /usr/samba/lib/codepages > > > > > > workgroup = SAMBA > > > > > > netbios name = > > > > > > netbios aliases = > > > > > > netbios scope = > > > > > > server string = Samba 2.2.6 > > > > > > interfaces = > > > > > > bind interfaces only = No > > > > > > security = USER > > > > > > encrypt passwords = Yes > > > > > > update encrypted = No > > > > > > allow trusted domains = Yes > > > > > > hosts equiv = > > > > > > min passwd length = 5 > > > > > > map to guest = Never > > > > > > null passwords = No > > > > > > obey pam restrictions = No > > > > > > password server = > > > > > > smb passwd file = /usr/samba/private/smbpasswd > > > > > > root directory = > > > > > > pam password change = No > > > > > > passwd program = /usr/bin/passwd %u > > > > > > passwd chat = *ew*password:* %n\n *e-enter*new*password:* > > %n\n > > > > > > passwd chat debug = No > > > > > > username map = > > > > > > password level = 0 > > > > > > username level = 0 > > > > > > unix password sync = No > > > > > > restrict anonymous = No > > > > > > lanman auth = Yes > > > > > > use rhosts = No > > > > > > admin log = No > > > > > > log level = 0 > > > > > > syslog = 1 > > > > > > syslog only = No > > > > > > log file = > > > > > > max log size = 50 > > > > > > timestamp logs = Yes > > > > > > debug hires timestamp = No > > > > > > debug pid = No > > > > > > debug uid = No > > > > > > protocol = NT1 > > > > > > large readwrite = Yes > > > > > > max protocol = NT1 > > > > > > min protocol = CORE > > > > > > read bmpx = No > > > > > > read raw = Yes > > > > > > write raw = Yes > > > > > > nt smb support = Yes > > > > > > nt pipe support = Yes > > > > > > nt status support = Yes > > > > > > announce version = 4.9 > > > > > > announce as = NT > > > > > > max mux = 50 > > > > > > max xmit = 16644 > > > > > > name resolve order = lmhosts host wins bcast > > > > > > max ttl = 259200 > > > > > > max wins ttl = 518400 > > > > > > min wins ttl = 21600 > > > > > > time server = No > > > > > > unix extensions = No > > > > > > change notify timeout = 60 > > > > > > deadtime = 15 > > > > > > getwd cache = Yes > > > > > > keepalive = 300 > > > > > > lpq cache time = 10 > > > > > > max smbd processes = 0 > > > > > > max disk size = 0 > > > > > > max open files = 10000 > > > > > > name cache timeout = 660 > > > > > > read size = 16384 > > > > > > socket options = TCP_NODELAY > > > > > > stat cache size = 50 > > > > > > use mmap = Yes > > > > > > total print jobs = 0 > > > > > > load printers = Yes > > > > > > printcap name = /etc/printcap > > > > > > disable spoolss = No > > > > > > enumports command = > > > > > > addprinter command = > > > > > > deleteprinter command = > > > > > > show add printer wizard = Yes > > > > > > os2 driver map = > > > > > > strip dot = No > > > > > > mangling method = hash > > > > > > character set = > > > > > > mangled stack = 50 > > > > > > stat cache = Yes > > > > > > domain admin group = > > > > > > domain guest group = > > > > > > machine password timeout = 604800 > > > > > > add user script = > > > > > > delete user script = > > > > > > logon script = > > > > > > logon path = \\%N\%U\profile > > > > > > logon drive = > > > > > > logon home = \\%N\%U > > > > > > domain logons = No > > > > > > os level = 65 > > > > > > lm announce = Auto > > > > > > lm interval = 60 > > > > > > preferred master = Yes > > > > > > local master = Yes > > > > > > domain master = Yes > > > > > > browse list = Yes > > > > > > enhanced browsing = Yes > > > > > > dns proxy = Yes > > > > > > wins proxy = No > > > > > > wins server = > > > > > > wins support = Yes > > > > > > wins hook = > > > > > > kernel oplocks = No > > > > > > lock spin count = 3 > > > > > > lock spin time = 10 > > > > > > oplock break wait time = 10 > > > > > > add share command = > > > > > > change share command = > > > > > > delete share command = > > > > > > config file = > > > > > > preload = > > > > > > lock dir = /usr/samba/var/locks > > > > > > pid directory = /usr/samba/var/locks > > > > > > default service = > > > > > > message command = > > > > > > dfree command = > > > > > > valid chars = > > > > > > remote announce = > > > > > > remote browse sync = > > > > > > socket address = 0.0.0.0 > > > > > > homedir map = > > > > > > time offset = 0 > > > > > > NIS homedir = No > > > > > > source environment = > > > > > > panic action = > > > > > > hide local users = No > > > > > > winbind uid = > > > > > > winbind gid = > > > > > > template homedir = /home/%D/%U > > > > > > template shell = /bin/false > > > > > > winbind separator = \ > > > > > > winbind cache time = 15 > > > > > > winbind enum users = Yes > > > > > > winbind enum groups = Yes > > > > > > winbind use default domain = No > > > > > > comment = Samba %v > > > > > > path = > > > > > > alternate permissions = No > > > > > > username = > > > > > > guest account = nobody > > > > > > invalid users = > > > > > > valid users = > > > > > > admin users = > > > > > > read list = > > > > > > write list = > > > > > > printer admin = hkv > > > > > > force user = > > > > > > force group = > > > > > > read only = Yes > > > > > > create mask = 0744 > > > > > > force create mode = 00 > > > > > > security mask = 0777 > > > > > > force security mode = 00 > > > > > > directory mask = 0755 > > > > > > force directory mode = 00 > > > > > > directory security mask = 0777 > > > > > > force directory security mode = 00 > > > > > > force unknown acl user = 00 > > > > > > inherit permissions = No > > > > > > inherit acls = No > > > > > > guest only = No > > > > > > guest ok = No > > > > > > only user = No > > > > > > hosts allow = 193.94.63. 193.66.15.38 > > > > > > hosts deny = > > > > > > status = Yes > > > > > > nt acl support = Yes > > > > > > profile acls = No > > > > > > block size = 1024 > > > > > > max connections = 0 > > > > > > min print space = 0 > > > > > > strict allocate = No > > > > > > strict sync = No > > > > > > sync always = No > > > > > > write cache size = 0 > > > > > > max print jobs = 1000 > > > > > > printable = No > > > > > > postscript = No > > > > > > printing = bsd > > > > > > print command = /usr/bsd/lpr -r -h -P%p %s > > > > > > lpq command = /usr/bsd/lpq -P%p > > > > > > lprm command = /usr/bsd/lprm -P%p %j > > > > > > lppause command = > > > > > > lpresume command = > > > > > > queuepause command = disable %p > > > > > > queueresume command = enable %p > > > > > > printer name = > > > > > > use client driver = No > > > > > > default devmode = No > > > > > > printer driver = > > > > > > printer driver file = /usr/samba/lib/printers.def > > > > > > printer driver location = > > > > > > default case = lower > > > > > > case sensitive = No > > > > > > preserve case = Yes > > > > > > short preserve case = Yes > > > > > > mangle case = No > > > > > > mangling char = ~ > > > > > > hide dot files = Yes > > > > > > hide unreadable = No > > > > > > delete veto files = No > > > > > > veto files = > > > > > > hide files = > > > > > > veto oplock files = > > > > > > map system = No > > > > > > map hidden = No > > > > > > map archive = Yes > > > > > > mangled names = Yes > > > > > > mangled map = > > > > > > browseable = Yes > > > > > > blocking locks = Yes > > > > > > csc policy = manual > > > > > > fake oplocks = No > > > > > > locking = Yes > > > > > > oplocks = Yes > > > > > > level2 oplocks = No > > > > > > oplock contention limit = 2 > > > > > > posix locking = Yes > > > > > > strict locking = No > > > > > > share modes = Yes > > > > > > copy = > > > > > > include = > > > > > > exec = > > > > > > preexec close = No > > > > > > postexec = > > > > > > root preexec = > > > > > > root preexec close = No > > > > > > root postexec = > > > > > > available = Yes > > > > > > volume = > > > > > > fstype = NTFS > > > > > > set directory = No > > > > > > wide links = Yes > > > > > > follow symlinks = Yes > > > > > > dont descend = > > > > > > magic script = > > > > > > magic output = > > > > > > delete readonly = No > > > > > > dos filemode = No > > > > > > dos filetimes = No > > > > > > dos filetime resolution = No > > > > > > fake directory create times = No > > > > > > vfs object = > > > > > > vfs options = > > > > > > > > > > > > [homes] > > > > > > comment = Home Directories > > > > > > valid users = hkv jyrri > > > > > > read only = No > > > > > > browseable = No > > > > > > > > > > > > [printers] > > > > > > comment = All Printers > > > > > > path = /var/spool/samba > > > > > > create mask = 0700 > > > > > > guest ok = Yes > > > > > > printable = Yes > > > > > > browseable = No > > > > > > > > > > > > [nem] > > > > > > comment = Nemetschek Datat > > > > > > path = /usr/nem > > > > > > valid users = nykis1 jaaju kaiju terjo > > > > > > read only = No > > > > > > create mask = 0774 > > > > > > directory mask = 0775 > > > > > > > > > > > > [ohj] > > > > > > comment = Ohjelmatiedostot > > > > > > path = /usr/ohj > > > > > > valid users = +user > > > > > > admin users = admin hkv jyrri > > > > > > force group = sys > > > > > > read only = No > > > > > > > > > > > > [proj] > > > > > > comment = Projektihakemisto > > > > > > path = /usr/proj > > > > > > valid users = +user > > > > > > read only = No > > > > > > create mask = 0774 > > > > > > directory mask = 0775 > > > > > > > > > > > > [print$] > > > > > > path = /usr/samba/printer > > > > > > admin users = hkv > > > > > > write list = hkv > > > > > > guest ok = Yes > > > > > > > > > > > > [nemadmin] > > > > > > comment = Nemetschek Admin > > > > > > path = /usr2/nemadmin > > > > > > valid users = nykis1 jaaju terjo kaiju > > > > > > read only = No > > > > > > create mask = 0774 > > > > > > directory mask = 0775 > > > > > > browseable = No > > > > > > > > > > > > The Office documents are in service [proj]. Hopefully Samba is not > > > only > > > > > for > > > > > > Linux. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hannu > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "Marian Mlcoch, Ing" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > To: "Hannu Virtanen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 10:06 AM > > > > > > Subject: Re: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 > > in > > > > > Samba > > > > > > > 2.0.7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Hannu > > > > > > > I mean that yuor problem not is in oplock but you change from > > 2.0.7 > > > to > > > > > > > newest platform and more default values of samba conf is changed > > in > > > > new > > > > > > > version. First you must post to this list your conf that is > reply > > of > > > > > samba > > > > > > > command > > > > > > > > > > > > > > testparm -s > > > > > > > > > > > > > > afther this anybody can try help you to solve your problem. > > > > > > > Secondary problem is compatibility of kernels that new samba is > > > > > optimized > > > > > > > for linux. > > > > > > > Try post more information. > > > > > > > Bye. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > From: "Hannu Virtanen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 9:37 AM > > > > > > > Subject: [Samba] Oplock problems with Office 97 and Windows 95 > in > > > > Samba > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2.0.7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We have used Samba in SGI IRIX 6.5(now 6.5.11m) machines from > > the > > > > SGI > > > > > > > > version 2.0.7. We have Windows 95, NT4 and 2000 clients. We > had > > no > > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > with the version 2.0.7 at all. I am looking for the new > > > > > > possibilities(PDC, > > > > > > > > BDC and LDAP...) with Samba 2.2.5 and newer. I installed > > samba.org > > > > > > version > > > > > > > > of Samba 2.2.5 and from that we have had problems with Office > 97 > > > > > > documents > > > > > > > > in Windows 95 machines. Office freezes and cannot save or > create > > > new > > > > > > > > documents or open existing documents. I searched for this kind > > of > > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > from the mailing lists and the web and found out that i am not > > the > > > > > only > > > > > > > one > > > > > > > > having problems with oplocks. > > > > > > > > Why did i not have problems with 2.0.7, is Windows 95 support > > > > > forgotten > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > the 2.2.x versions of Samba? > > > > > > > > The common advice is to put oplocks = no, but this i cannot > do, > > > > > because > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > means not to use Office 97 from Windows 95 machines(they > cannot > > > use > > > > > any > > > > > > > > Office documents from the share or create new ones at all), > why > > is > > > > > that? > > > > > > > > Is there difference in putting oplocks =no at global or share > > > > sections > > > > > > on > > > > > > > > smb.conf, which kind? > > > > > > > > Is there a way of telling the client to not ask for oplocks, > so > > > that > > > > i > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > > disable oplocks from Windows 95 machines? > > > > > > > > We are now using Samba 2.2.6 with the same problems as 2.2.5 > > even > > > > > though > > > > > > > > there have been discussions of correcting locking problems > from > > > > 2.2.5, > > > > > > but > > > > > > > > if this thing was fine allready in version 2.0.7, why does > Samba > > > > have > > > > > > this > > > > > > > > kind of fundamental problems? > > > > > > > > Version 2.2.5 and 2.2.6 have oplock errors also with other > > > > > > > programs(F-Secure > > > > > > > > Anti-Virus, AutoCAD LT 97...), but they does not seem to > affect > > to > > > > > > > programs > > > > > > > > like Office 97. > > > > > > > > There has been also loss of documents with Office 97 at these > > > > > > situations, > > > > > > > > when the program cannot save the file(anywhere anymore). > > > > > > > > I have not heard any problems with Windows NT4 or 2000 clients > > > > > allthough > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > the web many have told there ar same kind of problems also > with > > > > these > > > > > > > > clients. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hannu Virtanen > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read > > the > > > > > > > > instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > > > > > > instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > > > > instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba > > > > > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the > > instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba > > -- To unsubscribe from this list go to the following URL and read the instructions: http://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/samba
