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   1. Re: Re: [Sanskrit]  onj?- (Toke Lindegaard Knudsen)
   2. Re:Re: [Sanskrit]  on j?- (Sai)
   3. Re: Re: [Sanskrit]  onj?- (Toke Lindegaard Knudsen)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 9:43:29 -0400
From: Toke Lindegaard Knudsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Re: [Sanskrit]  onj?-
To: Sai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sai uvAca

> Because in telugu, we don't write many sanskrit words as
> they are supposed to be written and pronounced. e.g.,
> aananda is written in telugu as aanaMda (with sunna
> (anusvara or bindu) as in aM, which is wrong according to
> pANini's sanskrit grammar rules.

Actually, writing AnaMda rather than Ananda is very common in old Indian manuscripts.  
I am working on cataloguing Sanskrit manuscripts and the scribes will almost 
invariably use the anusvAra rather than the proper nasal as per PANini.  The scribes 
will thus write khaMDa rather than khaNDa, AnaMda rather than Ananda, etc.

Best,
Toke


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 08:27:15 -0600
From: Sai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re:Re: [Sanskrit]  on j?-
To: Toke Lindegaard Knudsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Do you mean scribes of today or of the original writers of those old
manuscripts? Also do you mean in the sanskrit language?
My sanskrit teachers from sa.nskR^ita bhArati told me that atleast the
correct way to pronounce anusvara is as if the fifth nasal is series is written.
e.g., aananda, akhaNDa are the correct pronunciations, though writing
them that way becomes cumbersome. This may be the reason for scribes to
just use the anusvara - to simplify writing.
- Sai.

Toke Lindegaard Knudsen uvaacha:
> Sai uvAca
> 
> > Because in telugu, we don't write many sanskrit words as
> > they are supposed to be written and pronounced. e.g.,
> > aananda is written in telugu as aanaMda (with sunna
> > (anusvara or bindu) as in aM, which is wrong according to
> > pANini's sanskrit grammar rules.
> 
> Actually, writing AnaMda rather than Ananda is very common in old Indian 
> manuscripts.  I am working on cataloguing Sanskrit manuscripts and the scribes will 
> almost invariably use the anusvAra rather than the proper nasal as per PANini.  The 
> scribes will thus write khaMDa rather than khaNDa, AnaMda rather than Ananda, etc.
> 
> Best,
> Toke
> 

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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 13:12:18 -0400
From: Toke Lindegaard Knudsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Re: [Sanskrit]  onj?-
To: Sai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dear Sai,

> Do you mean scribes of today or of the original writers of
> those old manuscripts? Also do you mean in the sanskrit
> language?

I mean scribes of old manuscripts in the Sanskrit language.

> My sanskrit teachers from sa.nskR^ita bhArati told me that
> atleast the correct way to pronounce anusvara is as if the
> fifth nasal is series is written. e.g., aananda, akhaNDa
> are the correct pronunciations, though writing them that
> way becomes cumbersome. This may be the reason for scribes
> to just use the anusvara - to simplify writing.

You are right about the pronunciation--that is what I was taught as well.  It is much 
easier for a scribe to write the anusvAra rather than the proper nasal.

Best,
Toke


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