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1. Re: The meaning of JAYA (Vis Tekumalla)
2. Re: The meaning of JAYA (peekayar)
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Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 12:15:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Vis Tekumalla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] The meaning of JAYA
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Is it not katapadaya paddhati that Venkatamakhi used to derive the 72 melakarta ragas,
i.e., the ragas that have all the seven notes - sa, ri, ga, ma, pa, da, ni both in
arohanam (ascending) and avarohanam (descending)?
peekayar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Invocation before reciting Mahabharatha
naaraayaNaM namaskR^itya
naraM chaiva narottamam .
deviiM saraswatiiM chaiva
tato jayamudiirayet ..
naray[< nmSk�Ty
nr< cEv nrae�mm!,
devI� srSvtI� cEv
ttae jymudIryet!.
One should commence reading JAYA after saluting Narayana, Nara, Narottama and
Saraswatidevi.
Here the meaning of Jaya is given by every commentator as the story of victory of
Dharma over Adharma.
It has occurred to me for some time that Jaya here has an additional meaning as
follows.
There is a system of using alphabets to indicate numbers. This is called the
KATAPAYAADI system. In this
each letter in Sanskrit is assigned a numerical value.
kaadi nava - ka to jha are 1 to 9. jna = 0
Taadi nava - Ta to dha are 1 to 9. na = 0
paadi pancha - pa to ma are 1 to 5
yaadi ashta - ya to ha are 1 to 8
All independent vowels are 0
In case of joint letters the second letter will decide the number.
In the decimal system of numbering, a number acquires its true value depending on its
position such as unit position, tenth position, hundredth position and so on. Any
number will have at least one digit and it will be in the unit position.
Other positions are innumerable going from right to left. Thus the first letter in a
coded word signifies the unit position, the second the tenth position and so on.
As explained above ja in jaya denotes 8.
So place this 8 in the unit position.
ya in jaya denotes 1. So place 1 in the tenth position. Then we get the number 18 or
eighteen for jaya.
What is the significance of 18 in Mahabharatha.
It has got 18 parvaas.
Gita is part of Mahabharatha. It has 18 chapters.
The number of military divisions engaged in the war was 18.
(11 on the Kaurava side and 7 on the Pandava side).
Mahabharatha war lasted 18 days.
P.K.Ramakrishnan
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Date: Sat, 1 May 2004 18:13:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: peekayar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] The meaning of JAYA
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That is right. For example Maayaa maalavagoula
denotes the 15th (or is it the 51st) melakarta raga.
khara harapriya means 22nd.
Vis Tekumalla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Is it not katapadaya paddhati that Venkatamakhi used to derive the 72 melakarta ragas,
i.e., the ragas that have all the seven notes - sa, ri, ga, ma, pa, da, ni both in
arohanam (ascending) and avarohanam (descending)?
peekayar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Invocation before reciting Mahabharatha
naaraayaNaM namaskR^itya
naraM chaiva narottamam .
deviiM saraswatiiM chaiva
tato jayamudiirayet ..
naray[< nmSk�Ty
nr< cEv nrae�mm!,
devI� srSvtI� cEv
ttae jymudIryet!.
One should commence reading JAYA after saluting Narayana, Nara, Narottama and
Saraswatidevi.
Here the meaning of Jaya is given by every commentator as the story of victory of
Dharma over Adharma.
It has occurred to me for some time that Jaya here has an additional meaning as
follows.
There is a system of using alphabets to indicate numbers. This is called the
KATAPAYAADI system. In this
each letter in Sanskrit is assigned a numerical value.
kaadi nava - ka to jha are 1 to 9. jna = 0
Taadi nava - Ta to dha are 1 to 9. na = 0
paadi pancha - pa to ma are 1 to 5
yaadi ashta - ya to ha are 1 to 8
All independent vowels are 0
In case of joint letters the second letter will decide the number.
In the decimal system of numbering, a number acquires its true value depending on its
position such as unit position, tenth position, hundredth position and so on. Any
number will have at least one digit and it will be in the unit position.
Other positions are innumerable going from right to left. Thus the first letter in a
coded word signifies the unit position, the second the tenth position and so on.
As explained above ja in jaya denotes 8.
So place this 8 in the unit position.
ya in jaya denotes 1. So place 1 in the tenth position. Then we get the number 18 or
eighteen for jaya.
What is the significance of 18 in Mahabharatha.
It has got 18 parvaas.
Gita is part of Mahabharatha. It has 18 chapters.
The number of military divisions engaged in the war was 18.
(11 on the Kaurava side and 7 on the Pandava side).
Mahabharatha war lasted 18 days.
P.K.Ramakrishnan
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