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1. Re: The meaning of JAYA (devadas menon)
2. Re: The meaning of JAYA (peekayar)
3. Humour in grammar (12) (peekayar)
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Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 10:42:13 +0800
From: devadas menon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] The meaning of JAYA
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Jaya was also supposed to be the original name of Mahabharatha when it had
just 28,000 verses or so. Apparently Jaya became Jayabharatha (200,000 +
versus) and during the time of Shankaracharya became Mahabharatha with
the number of versus as it is now.
The details of this I read in a book called "Gita As it was".
regds....devadas
At 11:52 PM 5/1/04, peekayar wrote:
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>Invocation before reciting Mahabharatha
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>naaraayaNaM namaskR^itya
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>naraM chaiva narottamam .
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>deviiM saraswatiiM chaiva
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>tato jayamudiirayet ..
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>naray[< nmSk�Ty
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> nr< cEv nrae�mm!,
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>devI� srSvtI� cEv
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> ttae jymudIryet!.
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>One should commence reading JAYA after saluting Narayana, <?xml:namespace
>prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Nara,
>Narottama and Saraswatidevi.
>
>
>
>Here the meaning of Jaya is given by every commentator as the story
>of victory of Dharma over Adharma.
>
>
>
>It has occurred to me for some time that Jaya here has an additional
>meaning as follows.
>
>
>
>There is a system of using alphabets to indicate numbers. This is called
>the KATAPAYAADI system. In this
>
>each letter in Sanskrit is assigned a numerical value.
>
>
>
>kaadi nava - ka to jha are 1 to 9. jna = 0
>
>Taadi nava - Ta to dha are 1 to 9. na = 0
>
>paadi pancha - pa to ma are 1 to 5
>
>yaadi ashta - ya to ha are 1 to 8
>
>All independent vowels are 0
>
>In case of joint letters the second letter will decide the number.
>
>
>
>In the decimal system of numbering, a number acquires its true value
>depending on its position such as unit position, tenth position, hundredth
>position and so on. Any number will have at least one digit and it will
>be in the unit position.
>
>Other positions are innumerable going from right to left. Thus the first
>letter in a coded word signifies the unit position, the second the tenth
>position and so on.
>
>
>
>As explained above ja in jaya denotes 8.
>
>So place this 8 in the unit position.
>
>
>
>ya in jaya denotes 1. So place 1 in the tenth position. Then we get the
>number 18 or eighteen for jaya.
>
>
>
>What is the significance of 18 in Mahabharatha.
>
>
>
>It has got 18 parvaas.
>
>
>
>Gita is part of Mahabharatha. It has 18 chapters.
>
>
>
>The number of military divisions engaged in the war was 18.
>
>(11 on the Kaurava side and 7 on the Pandava side).
>
>
>
>Mahabharatha war lasted 18 days.
>
>
>
>P.K.Ramakrishnan
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Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 00:24:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: peekayar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] The meaning of JAYA
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Mahabharatha was written more than 5000 years ago. Sankaracharya is believed to have
been
born about 1200 years ago. I shall now quote
from Mahabharatha Adi parva 1st adhyaaya.
Sloka 11
kathitaashchaapi vidhivad yaa
vaishampaayanena vai / shrutvaahaM taa vichitraarthaaM
mahaaabhaarata-saMshritaaH //
The word mahaabhaarata itself is used
in the Mahaabharatam. How does Sankaracharya
come here?
P.K.Ramakrishnan
devadas menon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Jaya was also supposed to be the original name
of Mahabharatha when it had
just 28,000 verses or so. Apparently Jaya became Jayabharatha (200,000 +
versus) and during the time of Shankaracharya became Mahabharatha with
the number of versus as it is now.
The details of this I read in a book called "Gita As it was".
regds....devadas
At 11:52 PM 5/1/04, peekayar wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Invocation before reciting Mahabharatha
>
>
>
>naaraayaNaM namaskR^itya
>
>naraM chaiva narottamam .
>
>deviiM saraswatiiM chaiva
>
>tato jayamudiirayet ..
>
>
>
>naray[< nmSk�Ty
>
> nr< cEv nrae�mm!,
>
>devI� srSvtI� cEv
>
> ttae jymudIryet!.
>
>
>
>One should commence reading JAYA after saluting Narayana, >prefix = st1 ns =
>"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" />Nara,
>Narottama and Saraswatidevi.
>
>
>
>Here the meaning of Jaya is given by every commentator as the story
>of victory of Dharma over Adharma.
>
>
>
>It has occurred to me for some time that Jaya here has an additional
>meaning as follows.
>
>
>
>There is a system of using alphabets to indicate numbers. This is called
>the KATAPAYAADI system. In this
>
>each letter in Sanskrit is assigned a numerical value.
>
>
>
>kaadi nava - ka to jha are 1 to 9. jna = 0
>
>Taadi nava - Ta to dha are 1 to 9. na = 0
>
>paadi pancha - pa to ma are 1 to 5
>
>yaadi ashta - ya to ha are 1 to 8
>
>All independent vowels are 0
>
>In case of joint letters the second letter will decide the number.
>
>
>
>In the decimal system of numbering, a number acquires its true value
>depending on its position such as unit position, tenth position, hundredth
>position and so on. Any number will have at least one digit and it will
>be in the unit position.
>
>Other positions are innumerable going from right to left. Thus the first
>letter in a coded word signifies the unit position, the second the tenth
>position and so on.
>
>
>
>As explained above ja in jaya denotes 8.
>
>So place this 8 in the unit position.
>
>
>
>ya in jaya denotes 1. So place 1 in the tenth position. Then we get the
>number 18 or eighteen for jaya.
>
>
>
>What is the significance of 18 in Mahabharatha.
>
>
>
>It has got 18 parvaas.
>
>
>
>Gita is part of Mahabharatha. It has 18 chapters.
>
>
>
>The number of military divisions engaged in the war was 18.
>
>(11 on the Kaurava side and 7 on the Pandava side).
>
>
>
>Mahabharatha war lasted 18 days.
>
>
>
>P.K.Ramakrishnan
>
>
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Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 08:17:55 -0700 (PDT)
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Subject: [Sanskrit] Humour in grammar (12)
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Humour in grammar (12)
shlesha (multiple meaning) can arise in two ways. One by having more than one meaning
for a word. The second by forming different words from the
same set of letters. This therefore comes under the category of grammar. There is
also an element of humour wherever there is shlesha.
In the following verse both these types can be seen.
janasthaane bhraantaM kanakamR^igatR^iSNaandhitadhiyaa
vacho vai dehiiti pratipadamudashru pralabhitam .
kR^iitaalaM kaabharturvadana-paripaaTiiSu ghaTanaa
mayaaptaM raamatvaM kushalavasutaa naapyupagataa ..
Humour in grammar (12)
shlesha (multiple meaning) can arise in two ways.
One by having more than one meaning for a word.
The second by forming different words from the
same set of letters. This therefore comes under the
category of grammar. There is also an element
of humour wherever there is shlesha.
In the following verse both these types can be seen.
janasthaane bhraantaM kanakamR^igatR^iSNaandhitadhiyaa
vacho vai dehiiti pratipadamudashru pralabhitam .
kR^iitaalaM kaabharturvadana-paripaaTiiSu ghaTanaa
mayaaptaM raamatvaM kushalavasutaa naapyupagataa ..
Humour in grammar (12)
shlesha (multiple meaning) can arise in two ways.
One by having more than one meaning for a word.
The second by forming different words from the
same set of letters. This therefore comes under the
category of grammar. There is also an element
of humour wherever there is shlesha.
In the following verse both these types can be seen.
janasthaane bhraantaM kanakamR^igatR^iSNaandhitadhiyaa
vacho vai dehiiti pratipadamudashru pralabhitam .
kR^iitaalaM kaabharturvadana-paripaaTiiSu ghaTanaa
mayaaptaM raamatvaM kushalavasutaa naapyupagataa ..
Humour in grammar (12)
shlesha (multiple meaning) can arise in two ways. One by having more than one meaning
for a word. The second by forming different words from the
same set of letters. This therefore comes under the category of grammar. There is
also an element of humour wherever there is shlesha.
In the following verse both these types can be seen.
janasthaane bhraantaM kanakamR^igatR^iSNaandhitadhiyaa
vacho vai dehiiti pratipadamudashru pralabhitam .
kR^iitaalaM kaabharturvadana-paripaaTiiSu ghaTanaa
mayaaptaM raamatvaM kushalavasutaa naapyupagataa ..
jnSwane �aNt< knkm>&:[aiNxtixya
vcae vE dehIit �itpdmud�u �li�tm!,
k�tal< ka�tuRvRdn-pirpaqI;u "qna
mya�< ramTv< k�zlvsuta naPyupgta.
Itrans 99
You are required to give the meanings and
the name of the authour 6th May 2004.
P.K.Ramakrishnan
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