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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Bhaagavatam on SaptarShi's (Ambujam Raman)
2. Re: Bhaagavatam on SaptarShi's (A. R. Srikrishnan)
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 00:17:22 -0400
From: "Ambujam Raman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Bhaagavatam on SaptarShi's
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bhoH shriikR^iiSNamahashayaaH!
ashvattaamaa balirvyaaso hanumaa.Nshca vibhiShaNaH|
kR^ipaH parashuraamashca saptaite cirajiivinaH||
tasmaat suviditam ashvattaamaa na punarbhavati!
tarhi katham sa saptarShi bhavitumarhati?
kR^payaa vishadii kurutaam
dhanyavaadaH
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From: A. R. Srikrishnan
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Subject: [Sanskrit] Bhaagavatam on SaptarShi's
bhoH shriikR^iiSNamahashayaaH!
saaayi mahaashayasya nideshamanusR^itya ahaM devavaaNyaameva pR^icChaami.
bhaagavate kasmin skandhe kasmin sarge katame shloke idaM uktamiti j~naatumicChaami.
iti
bhavadiiyaH ||vande ||
srimadbhaagavate aShtama-skandhe manwantaaraaNaam, saptarShiiNaam ca varNanam
dR^ishyate. adhyaayaanaam shlokaanaam ca samKhyaa.H atra nirdeShtum yataami:
aShtamaskandhe, praThamasarge, saptadasha-slokaad aarabhya (8.1:17-)
trayodasha-tame sarge, praThamaslokaad
aarabhya ca (8.13:1-)
tatra, manvaantraaNaam krama.H, manuunaam naamaani, saptrShiigaNasya suucana ca
dR^ishyante | saptarShi-gana.H vibhinna-manwantareShu vibhinno bhavati | atra
udaaharaNam: droNaputro ashwatThaama aagaamini aShtama-manwantare saptarShiShu eko
bhaviShyati ityuktam bhaagavate | adhunaa sa.H saptarShi-gaNe naastiiti suviditam
khalu, na ?
(The description of manwantaraas & saptarshis is given in Bhagavatam in the *8th
skandha* - in 1st chapter (17th verse onwards) and 13th chapter (from 1st verse).
The order of manwantaraas, names of manus and the respective groups of saptarShis are
explained there. saptrarShi's vary across manwantaras. For example, in the next
manwantara (8th one) aswatThaama is going to be one of the saptarShis - and it is well
known that, at present he is not among saptarshis, right ?)
dhanyosmi |
Srikrishnan
raamakR^iSNaH
"A. R. Srikrishnan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Regarding different "listings" of saptarShis: The explanation for this
is that, each manwantara (-the course of one manu) has a set of
saptarShi's associated with its period. R^iShis who constitute the
group _may_ vary from manwantara -to- manwantara. (The present
manwantara is the 7th one (name of manu of this one is "vivaswaan")).
This explanation is based on Bhaagavatam.
Thanks
Srikrishnan
2. Re: saptarshi (Vis Tekumalla)
From: Vis Tekumalla
It seems there are 3 schools on who the saptarishies are.
School 1: kaSyapa, atri, bharadwaaja, kauSika, gautama, jamadagni, and vasiShTa
School 2: mariichi, atri, a~Ngirasa, pulastya, pulahu, kratu, and vasiShTa
School 3: kaSyapa, atri, a~Ngirasa, kauSika, vasiShTa, bhR^igu, agastya
I don't know why the differences or the rationale behind the differences.
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Date: Tue, 17 Aug 2004 16:30:16 +0530
From: "A. R. Srikrishnan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Bhaagavatam on SaptarShi's
To: Ambujam Raman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Ambujam Raman wrote:
> bhoH shriikR^iiSNamahashayaaH! ashvattaamaa balirvyaaso
> hanumaa.Nshca vibhiShaNaH|
> kR^ipaH parashuraamashca saptaite cirajiivinaH||
> tasmaat suviditam ashvattaamaa na punarbhavati!
> tarhi katham sa saptarShi bhavitumarhati?
> kR^payaa vishadii kurutaam dhanyavaadaH
||namaste||
saadhu uktam bhavataa - droNaputraH chirajiivii bhavati iti vishrutameva
|| bhaavini aShtama-manwantare sa eva aatmanaH yoga-prabhaaveNa
saptarShipadam aapsyati iti bhaagavatoktiH | tathaiva,
gaalava-vyaasa-parasuraamadayaH, ye adhunaa swe swe aashrame
vartamaanaH, te api saptarShayaH bhaviShyanti ityuktam bhaagavate | ataH
saptarShi-padaarohaNam punarbhavam na apekShate iti avagantavyam |
supta-hatyayaa bhruuNa-hatyaa-shrameNa ca aparaaddhopi ashwatthaama,
kaalaantare yoga-samshuddho bhaviShyati iti anumeyam puraaNoktya ||
(Yes, aswatthaama is chiranjeevi - The statement in Bhagavata is that
he, with his yogic power, will attain the saptarshi - state. Similarly,
bhagavatam also states that Gaalava, Vyasa, Parsurama and others who
currently exist in their abodes will also become Saptarshis. So it can
be inferred that, it does not require rebirth to become saptarshi.
Aswatthama, though guilty of killing the sleeping youngsters and
attempting to destroy embryo, will eventually get himself purified
through yoga is what we can understand from the statement ).
dhanyosmi |
Srikrishnan
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