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Today's Topics:

   1. sitaravana samvada jhari introduction 10 (peekayar)
   2. saradabhujangam translation 8 (Last) (peekayar)
   3. Re: short sounds (Vis Tekumalla)
   4. Re: short sounds (peekayar)
   5. Re: saradabhujangam translation verse 7 (Ambujam Raman)
   6. Devi Navaratra Pujas (sri parasukhananda nadha)
   7. Re: Devi Navaratra Pujas - not relevant to this list (Sai)
   8. Re: Re: Devi Navaratra Pujas - not relevant to this list
      (Vis Tekumalla)


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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 04:54:27 -0700 (PDT)
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8

bhavAMbhojanetrAjasaMpUjyamAnAM

lasanmandahAsa prabhAvaktrachihnAM.

chalachcha~nchalAtchAru tATa~Nka karNAM

bhaje shAradAMbAM ajasraM madambAm..

 

 

�va<�aejne�ajs<pUJymana<

lsNmNdhas ��av�ic�a<,

cl��laTca� taq� k[a�

�je zarda<ba< Aj�< mdMbam!.

 

Worshipped by Siva, Vishnu and Brahma, 

With bewitching smile and lustrous face,

And ears with pretty dangling rings,

I ceaselessly worship  shaaradaambaa, my mother.

 

 P.K.Ramakrishnan

4th oct. 2004


                
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 06:46:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Vis Tekumalla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] short sounds
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shrI desirAju hanumantarao uvAcha:
 
The short 'o' is there in Sanskrit as in -  h� prabho etc. Sanskrit has no elongated 
'O' as in pancha draviDa languages. The sound 'eh' - in which context you mean.
 
It was in the context of that "balloon" discussion. Is it possible to write "balloon" 
in Sanskrit? If you write it as "belUn" in devanagari, you end up pronouncing the 
first syllable "be" long or elongated like deva, repha, neta, etc., right? 
 
Also, I am surpprised about your comment on elongated "o." 
Aren't the o's elongated in "govinda," "gotra," "jyoti," "ojasa," etc.? 



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 07:16:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: peekayar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] short sounds
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the o in prabho is elongated and not short.
 
There is no word in Sanskrit which requires a short e
or o, whereas  there are such words in South Indian languages.  
 

Vis Tekumalla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
shrI desirAju hanumantarao uvAcha:
 
The short 'o' is there in Sanskrit as in -  h� prabho etc. Sanskrit has no elongated 
'O' as in pancha draviDa languages. The sound 'eh' - in which context you mean.
 
It was in the context of that "balloon" discussion. Is it possible to write "balloon" 
in Sanskrit? If you write it as "belUn" in devanagari, you end up pronouncing the 
first syllable "be" long or elongated like deva, repha, neta, etc., right? 
 
Also, I am surpprised about your comment on elongated "o." 
Aren't the o's elongated in "govinda," "gotra," "jyoti," "ojasa," etc.? 



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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 11:15:12 -0400
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Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] saradabhujangam translation verse 7
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bhaje mAnasAMbhoja subhrAnta bhR^i~NgIM.

bhaje = I take possession of
mAnasAMbhoja = produced from the mind-lotus
subhrAnta = su bhrAnta = highly agitated
bhR^i~NgI = black bee (also a libertine)

i.e to take possession of the mind fluttering like a bee getting agitated in the lotus 
flower.

rAmaH
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Date: 4 Oct 2004 16:07:32 -0000
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Subject: [Sanskrit] Devi Navaratra Pujas
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 �Swatma-swaroopa upasaka sahodarah,
         Namo Namah.
         As per DeviBhagavatam we have to start Devi Navaratrapoojas
either in the Hasta Nakshatra and Udvasana at the conclusion of
Sravana Nakshatram--or--nine days from the Chitra nakshatram.
Also it is mentioned that we should not conclude the Poojas until
the Navami is entirely completed and Dasami should enter.
      
         But for this year, on 13th October Hasta is falling on
Chaturdasi day ending at 2-35AM of14th,  On 14th Chitra is completing at 2-15AM of 
15th.  On Pratipatti thidhi on15th Swathi nakshatram
is prevailing.  Navami is falling on 22nd and completing by 2-25PM
on that day.  Shravanam prevails only until 3-15PM.
         If we start poojas on 15th night it counts only eight nights
pooja.  Can we perform pooja on 23rd night also (Ekadasi)?
         I request all the learned members to enlighten me in this regard.
L.Krishna Rao. 
         

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 10:32:59 -0600
From: Sai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Re: Devi Navaratra Pujas - not relevant to this
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>  As per DeviBhagavatam we have to start Devi Navaratrapoojas
namaste,
eShaH sa.nskR^ita-kUTasya sambandhI viShayo na hi
ataH pratyuttarAn sarvAn gIrvANyAmeva preShyatAm

(This issue is indeed not relevant to sanskrit mailing list. Hence
please either send replies in sanskrit or go offline and reply directly
to the sender)

BTW, is my usage of preShyatAm correct (it doesn't seem right)? Can
somebody enlighten us on how to use verbs in this manner - dIyatAm,
preShyatAm, kurutAm. Is it karmaNi prayoga of karotu etc.?
In
    jalam AnIyatAm (may water be fetched)
should jalam be in dvitIyA or prathamA?
- Sai.

sri parasukhananda nadha uvaacha:
>  �Swatma-swaroopa upasaka sahodarah,
>          Namo Namah.
>          As per DeviBhagavatam we have to start Devi Navaratrapoojas
> either in the Hasta Nakshatra and Udvasana at the conclusion of
> Sravana Nakshatram--or--nine days from the Chitra nakshatram.
> Also it is mentioned that we should not conclude the Poojas until
> the Navami is entirely completed and Dasami should enter.

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2004 10:10:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Vis Tekumalla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Re: Devi Navaratra Pujas - not relevant to
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Sai uvAcha:
 
ataH pratyuttarAn sarvAn gIrvANyAmeva preShyatAm

Is my usage of preShyatAm correct (it doesn't seem right)? Can
somebody enlighten us on how to use verbs in this manner - dIyatAm,
preShyatAm, kurutAm. Is it karmaNi prayoga of karotu etc.?

How about - 
ataH pratyuttarAn sarvAn gIrvANyAmeva preShayitum arhanti, 
lekhAyAH prakashana viShaye mama nirNayaH eva pramANam:-)
 
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