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1. Re: sanskrit Digest, Vol 26, Issue 26 (J. K. Mohana Rao)
2. For Sanskrit lovers (P.K.Ramakrishnan)
3. (Kashyap Doshi)
4. Re: For Sanskrit lovers (Lakshmi Srinivas)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 16:53:29 -0400
From: "J. K. Mohana Rao" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Re: sanskrit Digest, Vol 26, Issue 26
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> does any one know a source (book, download, etc) that
> lists all verbal conjugations/derivatives, etc, in a
> comprehensive way?
>
Have you tried shabdama.njarI. A free downloadable
version is available at
http://www.archive.org
in the million book project section.
Regards! - J K Mohana Rao
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Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 21:46:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: "P.K.Ramakrishnan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] For Sanskrit lovers
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ETYMOLOGY - MANGO
The mango tree originated in the northeastern part of the Himalayas in the
India-Burma border. Then it migrated to the plains of North India like Bihar
and UP. Later it spread to other parts of India including South India. Vasco
de Gama was the first European to see a mango when he landed in Calicut. The
local name in Malayalam is MAANGGA. Difficult to pronounce for
non-Malayaalees. This became MANGO in English.
But when you scratch open the word MANGO, you will find the history of its
migration.
The Sanskrit word for mango is AAMRAM. When it migrated to the Hindi region,
it became AAM-PHAL. It migrated to South India in very ancient times. Then
Tamil was the local language in the whole of South India. Phal means Kaay in
Tamil. So AAM-PHAL became AAM-KAAY in Tamil. Later by a twist of
pronunciation AAM-KAAY became MAANG-KAAY. In Malayalam it got shortened as
MANGA. The Portuguese adopted this word in their language.
How MANGA in Portuguese became MANGO in English is also interesting. One of
the Portuguese who landed in Calicut reported the discovery of the fruit Manga
to his English friend in a letter. It was a handwritten letter since there were
no typewriters in those days. The Englishman could not correctly decipher the
word. Since names of most of the fruits and plants found in the new world end
in �o� as in avocado, tomato, potato, tobacco etc. he spelt the word as
"mango�.
Now let us describe the journey of this word over thousands of years.
AAMRAM - Sanskrit
AAM-PHAL - Hindi
AAM-KAAY - Tamil 1
MAANG-KAAY - Tamil 2
MANGA - Malayalam
MANGA - Portuguese
MANGO - English
The idea that sometimes the pronunciation of words gets reversed is also an
interesting discovery. In 1972 i.e. some 30 years ago, we were staying in a
North Indian City. Accustomed to some North Indian habits, my wife was
sometimes making CHAPATHIS at home. My very young son at that time used to ask
his mother �Give me PACHATHI�.
Ten years later while I was on a morning walk I remembered this episode and the
idea that sometimes language undergoes a twist in pronunciation occurred to me
leading to my above discovery.
Mr. Khushwant Singh used to write about Mangoes now and then in the weekly
Magazine Sunday. When I wrote to him about my discovery, he published the
article verbatim.
P.K.Ramakrishnan � June 2002.
Bangalore.
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Date: 2 Jun 2005 08:53:48 -0000
From: "Kashyap Doshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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�
Can anybody suggest me a place in Ahemdabad where i could learn Sanskrit.
Regards,
Kashyap Doshi.
Ahemdabad.
9327559614
On Thu, 02 Jun 2005 PK.Ramakrishnan wrote :
>ETYMOLOGY - MANGO
>
>
>
>The mango tree originated in the northeastern part of the Himalayas in the
>India-Burma border. Then it migrated to the plains of North India like Bihar
>and UP. Later it spread to other parts of India including South India. Vasco
>de Gama was the first European to see a mango when he landed in Calicut. The
>local name in Malayalam is MAANGGA. Difficult to pronounce for
>non-Malayaalees. This became MANGO in English.
>
>
>But when you scratch open the word MANGO, you will find the history of its
>migration.
>
>
>
>The Sanskrit word for mango is AAMRAM. When it migrated to the Hindi region,
>it became AAM-PHAL. It migrated to South India in very ancient times. Then
>Tamil was the local language in the whole of South India. Phal means Kaay in
>Tamil. So AAM-PHAL became AAM-KAAY in Tamil. Later by a twist of
>pronunciation AAM-KAAY became MAANG-KAAY. In Malayalam it got shortened as
>MANGA. The Portuguese adopted this word in their language.
>
>
>
>How MANGA in Portuguese became MANGO in English is also interesting. One of
>the Portuguese who landed in Calicut reported the discovery of the fruit Manga
>to his English friend in a letter. It was a handwritten letter since there
>were no typewriters in those days. The Englishman could not correctly
>decipher the word. Since names of most of the fruits and plants found in the
>new world end in �o� as in avocado, tomato, potato, tobacco etc. he spelt the
>word as "mango�.
>
>
>
>Now let us describe the journey of this word over thousands of years.
>
>
>
>AAMRAM - Sanskrit
>
>AAM-PHAL - Hindi
>
>AAM-KAAY - Tamil 1
>
>MAANG-KAAY - Tamil 2
>
>MANGA - Malayalam
>
>MANGA - Portuguese
>
>MANGO - English
>
>
>
>The idea that sometimes the pronunciation of words gets reversed is also an
>interesting discovery. In 1972 i.e. some 30 years ago, we were staying in a
>North Indian City. Accustomed to some North Indian habits, my wife was
>sometimes making CHAPATHIS at home. My very young son at that time used to ask
>his mother �Give me PACHATHI�.
>
>
>
>Ten years later while I was on a morning walk I remembered this episode and
>the idea that sometimes language undergoes a twist in pronunciation occurred
>to me leading to my above discovery.
>
>
>
>Mr. Khushwant Singh used to write about Mangoes now and then in the weekly
>Magazine Sunday. When I wrote to him about my discovery, he published the
>article verbatim.
>
>
>
>
>
>P.K.Ramakrishnan � June 2002.
>
>Bangalore.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 04:32:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lakshmi Srinivas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] For Sanskrit lovers
To: "P.K.Ramakrishnan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, sanskrit digest
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You should publish this discovery
"P.K.Ramakrishnan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
ETYMOLOGY - MANGO
The mango tree originated in the northeastern part of the Himalayas in the
India-Burma border. Then it migrated to the plains of North India like Bihar
and UP. Later it spread to other parts of India including South India. Vasco
de Gama was the first European to see a mango when he landed in Calicut. The
local name in Malayalam is MAANGGA. Difficult to pronounce for
non-Malayaalees. This became MANGO in English.
But when you scratch open the word MANGO, you will find the history of its
migration.
The Sanskrit word for mango is AAMRAM. When it migrated to the Hindi region,
it became AAM-PHAL. It migrated to South India in very ancient times. Then
Tamil was the local language in the whole of South India. Phal means Kaay in
Tamil. So AAM-PHAL became AAM-KAAY in Tamil. Later by a twist of
pronunciation AAM-KAAY became MAANG-KAAY. In Malayalam it got shortened as
MANGA. The Portuguese adopted this word in their language.
How MANGA in Portuguese became MANGO in English is also interesting. One of
the Portuguese who landed in Calicut reported the discovery of the fruit Manga
to his English friend in a letter. It was a handwritten letter since there were
no typewriters in those days. The Englishman could not correctly decipher the
word. Since names of most of the fruits and plants found in the new world end
in �o� as in avocado, tomato, potato, tobacco etc. he spelt the word as
"mango�.
Now let us describe the journey of this word over thousands of years.
AAMRAM - Sanskrit
AAM-PHAL - Hindi
AAM-KAAY - Tamil 1
MAANG-KAAY - Tamil 2
MANGA - Malayalam
MANGA - Portuguese
MANGO - English
The idea that sometimes the pronunciation of words gets reversed is also an
interesting discovery. In 1972 i.e. some 30 years ago, we were staying in a
North Indian City. Accustomed to some North Indian habits, my wife was
sometimes making CHAPATHIS at home. My very young son at that time used to ask
his mother �Give me PACHATHI�.
Ten years later while I was on a morning walk I remembered this episode and the
idea that sometimes language undergoes a twist in pronunciation occurred to me
leading to my above discovery.
Mr. Khushwant Singh used to write about Mangoes now and then in the weekly
Magazine Sunday. When I wrote to him about my discovery, he published the
article verbatim.
P.K.Ramakrishnan � June 2002.
Bangalore.
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