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Today's Topics:

   1. Can anyone Help (Suman)
   2. Hi all (Suman)
   3. udyogaparvam - sarga 17 - 20 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
   4. Re: Can anyone Help (vasudha venkataraman)
   5. Birthdays (Deepak Sridharan)
   6. Re: verb form questions (Sai)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:00:39 +0100 (BST)
From: Suman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Can anyone Help
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Hello all,
 
This is my first mail to the groups.......can anyone tell me the timings, when 
the Sanskrit classes are broadcast on ALL INDIA RADIO and DOORDARSHAN 
(television)
 
Thanks in advance,
-Suman

                
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Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:18:02 +0100 (BST)
From: Suman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Hi all
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Hi all,
 
can anyone give me information regarding
 
1) When  the Sanskrit classes are aired on DoorDarshan (Television)
2) When  the Sanskrit classes are aired on All India Radio (Radio)
 
Thanks in advance,
-Suman
 



                
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:30:00 -0700
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Subject: [Sanskrit] udyogaparvam - sarga 17 - 20
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Translation by Vikram Santurkar under supervision of Dr. Sarasvati Mohan

shlokaH 20
upagamyAbruvansarve diShTyA vardhasi shatruhan . 
hatashcha nahuShaH pApo diShTyAgastyena dhImatA . 
diShTyA pApasamAchAraH kR^itaH sarpo mahItale .. 20..\

padavibhaagaH
upagamya abruvan sarve diShTyA vardhasi shatruhan . 
hataH cha nahuShaH pApaH diShTyA agastyena dhImatA . 
diShTyA pApasamAchAraH kR^itaH sarpaH mahItale .. 

anvayaH
sarve upagamya abruvan. shatruhan diShTyA vardhasi 
diShTyA nahuShaH pApaH dhImatA agastyena hataH.
diShTyA pApasamAchAraH mahItale sarpaH kR^itaH. 

pratipadaarthaH
sarve=All; 
upagamya=having gone: 
abruvan=spoke; 
shatruhan=O killer of enemies, Indra; 
diShTyA=fortunately 
vardhasi=you become powerful; 
diShTyA=Fortunately; 
nahuShaH=Nahusha; 
pApaH=the evil one; 
dhImatA=by the clever; 
agastyena=by Agastya; 
hataH=was killed; 
diShTyA=Fortunately; 
pApasamAchAraH=the follower of evil; 
mahItale=on the earth; 
sarpaH=serpent; 
kR^itaH=was turned into; 

anuvAdaH
Shalya says: All having gone to Indra spoke: O destroyer of enemies, fortunately
you become powerful. Fortunately, Nahusha the evil one, was killed by the 
clever Agastya.
Fortunately, the follower of evil was turned into a serpent on earth.

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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 00:18:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: vasudha venkataraman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Can anyone Help
To: Suman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
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Hi
This is great news..i also wanted to learn sanskrit. I
had heard it once on radio but could not keep track of
the time.
this info will be useful to me also

regards
vasuda
--- Suman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello all,
>  
> This is my first mail to the groups.......can anyone
> tell me the timings, when the Sanskrit classes are
> broadcast on ALL INDIA RADIO and DOORDARSHAN
> (television)
>  
> Thanks in advance,
> -Suman
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:37:31 +0100 (BST)
From: Deepak Sridharan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Birthdays
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Namaste,

Are there any sanskrit slokas which explain the
significance of birthdays. I am guessing that since
the concept of birthdays is relatively new, there is a
very remote possibility of finding them in old books.
If anyone has come across such slokas written by
scholars in the last few centuries, then it would be
very helful to me.

DhanyavAdaH
Deepak


                
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 09:11:22 -0600
From: Sai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Re: verb form questions
To: DAVID MITCHELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
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namaste David,

>  "icchantah" in Bhag. Gita 8.11. What effect does this have on the
>  verb? Does it become a passive, or maybe an adj.? I've noticed this

Here is an example usage of icchantaH:

        SAntim icchantaH, virodhAH sandhim kR^itavantaH
               ^^^^^^^^^
        wishing peace, the enemies made a treaty.
        ^^^^^^^
        
        sukham icchan, patnyA saha kadApi vivAdam na karomi
        wishing happiness, I never argue with my wife.

I don't know the english grammatical term to describe the above usage, but
I hope the examples clarified the meaning. Perhaps our
sanskrit mailing list members could help.

>  Also what is the difference between a passive verb and a verb in
>  atmane pada form? Could you give a simple example maybe translating
>  the dhatu "budh" in its passive form and in it's atmane pada form?

Regarding passive voice (karmaNi prayoga) and atmanepada, where is the
confusion? Did you find a word which is the same in its
atmanepada and passive voice forms? 
budhyate (passive) = is taught
bodhayati (parasmai) = teaches
don't know the atmane form of budh.

bhavAn vandyate (passive) = you are saluted 
aham vande (atmane) = I salute
- Sai.

  please accept my humble obeisances,

   I have noticed that sometimes verbs are declined, such as the word
   "icchantah" in Bhag. Gita 8.11. What effect does this have on the
   verb? Does it become a passive, or maybe an adj.? I've noticed this
   often and can't find anything on it in my text books.


   thank you very much for your time.

   David Mitchell


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