Acho que toda terminologia pode ser mistificada ou desmistificada, assim
como o remédio em excesso pode ser veneno! ;)
O comentário do André me fez lembrar desta chamada da alleyinteractive.com:
Our developers need to be well-rounded technologists who have a holistic
understanding of the web technology stack they work with, but who can
also interface with clients in a professional and intelligent way.
We're not looking for rockstars, ninjas, zombies or pirates. We're
looking for smart, creative, resourceful developers who want to work
with some impressive clients and who want to take pride in their work.
- See more at: http://www.alleyinteractive.com/hiring/#sthash.IgWA8WHM.dpuf
Our developers need to be well-rounded technologists who have a holistic
understanding of the web technology stack they work with, but who can
also interface with clients in a professional and intelligent way.
We're not looking for rockstars, ninjas, zombies or pirates. We're
looking for smart, creative, resourceful developers who want to work
with some impressive clients and who want to take pride in their work.
- See more at: http://www.alleyinteractive.com/hiring/#sthash.IgWA8WHM.dpuf
"
Our developers need to be well-rounded technologists who have a holistic
understanding of the web technology stack they work with, but who can
also interface with clients in a professional and intelligent way.
We're not looking for rockstars, ninjas, zombies or pirates. We're
looking for smart, creative, resourceful developers who want to work
with some impressive clients and who want to take pride in their work.
- See more at: http://www.alleyinteractive.com/hiring/#sthash.IgWA8WHM.dpuf
Our developers need to be well-rounded technologists who have a holistic
understanding of the web technology stack they work with, but who can
also interface with clients in a professional and intelligent way.
We're not looking for rockstars, ninjas, zombies or pirates. We're
looking for smart, creative, resourceful developers who want to work
with some impressive clients and who want to take pride in their work.
- See more at: http://www.alleyinteractive.com/hiring/#sthash.IgWA8WHM.dpuf
Our developers need to be well-rounded technologists who have a holistic
understanding of the web technology stack they work with, but who can
also interface with clients in a professional and intelligent way.
We're not looking for rockstars, ninjas, zombies or pirates. We're
looking for smart, creative, resourceful developers who want to work
with some impressive clients and who want to take pride in their work."
Our developers need to be well-rounded technologists who have a holistic
understanding of the web technology stack they work with, but who can
also interface with clients in a professional and intelligent way.
We're not looking for rockstars, ninjas, zombies or pirates. We're
looking for smart, creative, resourceful developers who want to work
with some impressive clients and who want to take pride in their work.
- See more at: http://www.alleyinteractive.com/hiring/#sthash.IgWA8WHM.dpuf
Our developers need to be well-rounded technologists who have a holistic
understanding of the web technology stack they work with, but who can
also interface with clients in a professional and intelligent way.
We're not looking for rockstars, ninjas, zombies or pirates. We're
looking for smart, creative, resourceful developers who want to work
with some impressive clients and who want to take pride in their work.
- See more at:
http://www.alleyinteractive.com/hiring/#sthash.IgWA8WHM.dpufOur
developers need to be well-rounded technologists who have a holistic
understanding of the web technology stack they work with, but who can
also interface with clients in a professional and intelligent way.
Our developers need to be well-rounded technologists who have a holistic
understanding of the web technology stack they work with, but who can
also interface with clients in a professional and intelligent way.
We're not looking for rockstars, ninjas, zombies or pirates. We're
looking for smart, creative, resourceful developers who want to work
with some impressive clients and who want to take pride in their work.
- See more at: http://www.alleyinteractive.com/hiring/#sthash.IgWA8WHM.dpuf
Our developers need to be well-rounded technologists who have a holistic
understanding of the web technology stack they work with, but who can
also interface with clients in a professional and intelligent way.
We're not looking for rockstars, ninjas, zombies or pirates. We're
looking for smart, creative, resourceful developers who want to work
with some impressive clients and who want to take pride in their work.
- See more at: http://www.alleyinteractive.com/hiring/#sthash.IgWA8WHM.dpuf
Our developers need to be well-rounded technologists who have a holistic
understanding of the web technology stack they work with, but who can
also interface with clients in a professional and intelligent way.
We're not looking for rockstars, ninjas, zombies or pirates. We're
looking for smart, creative, resourceful developers who want to work
with some impressive clients and who want to take pride in their work.
- See more at: http://www.alleyinteractive.com/hiring/#sthash.IgWA8WHM.dpuf
Our developers need to be well-rounded technologists who have a holistic
understanding of the web technology stack they work with, but who can
also interface with clients in a professional and intelligent way.
We're not looking for rockstars, ninjas, zombies or pirates. We're
looking for smart, creative, resourceful developers who want to work
with some impressive clients and who want to take pride in their work.
- See more at: http://www.alleyinteractive.com/hiring/#sthash.IgWA8WHM.dpuf
On 27-10-2015 07:29, Andre Carneiro wrote:
Pra mim esse lance de 'fullstack' é um nome bonito para o
'faz-tudo-que-deve-ganhar-a-mesma-merda'. É mais uma desculpinha
esfarrapada do povo de RH que quer 'mostrar serviço', mostrando que
pode contratar uma pessoa que pode fazer o serviço de três pessoas
pelo preço de uma. Isso 'no ecxiste'!
É muito raro alguém que domine todas as áreas envolvidas em problemas
de TI, ou seja, do design ao backend. Eu não conheço ninguém.
Cheers!
2015-10-26 23:43 GMT-02:00 Solli Honorio <shono...@gmail.com
<mailto:shono...@gmail.com>>:
Nilton,
A questão é mais como é que se torna um Fullstack Dev. Partindo do
princípio que não tem coisa melhor (e nem pior), o Fullstack vem
de um profissional que sente prazer e se diverte com todo o
'enviroment' do desenvolvimento, e isto incluí a parte do backend.
Com relação as empresas gostarem mais ou menos deste profissional,
está mais relacionado a cultura e necessidade dela. Se a empresa
tem definições rígidas como desenvolver, talvez não vê num
profissional Fullstack adequado a equipe, e na minha opinião ela
tem ração. Criar equipe é difícil, e ter pessoal com perfil não
aderente a cultura dela é mais difícil ainda.
Abraços,
Solli Honório
Em 26 de outubro de 2015 22:52, Nilton OS <jnilti...@gmail.com
<mailto:jnilti...@gmail.com>> escreveu:
Thiago, mas Fullstack Developers não é o cara que sabe desde
de desenv ate infra, será que uma empresa quer um cara assim.
Olha fiquei uns 6 meses sem trampo e percebi que muitas
empresas não são tão fam desses caras ou não acreditam muito.
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ago* | linuxpro.com.br <http://blog.linuxpro.com.br>
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Em 26 de outubro de 2015 22:42, Nilton OS <jnilti...@gmail.com
<mailto:jnilti...@gmail.com>> escreveu:
Olhas os eventos de Python que eu vou e gravo.
Esse foi o ultimo, esse sábado:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZrboFfBDFw
Tem uma lista:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCI7D6WaQZg&list=PLIXNPsQriECwDaMwcuZS1SfjYe14KjE6E
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years ago* | linuxpro.com.br <http://blog.linuxpro.com.br>
/*"Cert: LPIC-1, SUSE SCLA, ITILv3 2011"*/
Em 26 de outubro de 2015 19:24, Ricardo Stock
<ricardost...@bol.com.br <mailto:ricardost...@bol.com.br>>
escreveu:
tamo junto
Ricardo Stock
rica...@stocksistemas.com.br
<mailto:rica...@stocksistemas.com.br>
www.stockssitemas.com.br
<http://www.stockssitemas.com.br> - Tel/Whatsapp
(13)98826-5700 <tel:%2813%2998826-5700>
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Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 8:04 AM
To: São Paulo Perl Mongers
Subject: [SP-pm] Fullstack Developers São Paulo
Pessoal,
Acabei de criar um meetup, nossa ideia é desenvolver
um evento a cada
3 meses com desenvolvedores que estejam criando
soluções de
"ponta-a-ponta" e queiram compartilhar isso.
Em muitos casos, temos preferencias de atuação entre
back-end,
front-end, banco de dados, infraestrutura e por aí
vai, além de
tecnologias especificas. A ideia é misturar tudo, e
debater sobre
soluções criadas por pessoas que decidiram fazer tudo.
E o primeiro evento já tem data, é dia 21 de novembro.
http://www.meetup.com/Fullstack-Developers-Sao-Paulo/
Quem tiver afim de participar e falar sobre, por
favor, só entrar no
meetup e compartilhar o que queira dizer lá no grupo
mesmo.
Abs!
-Thiago Rondon
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