On Fri, 7 Mar 2008, Daryl Tester wrote: > Chris Foote wrote: > >> I thought it might be interesting to see the proportions for different >> languages in different cities for Seek IT Job listings: > > Automated query, or did you just punch in these keywords and write down > the results?
Manual searches. I had a spare half hour :-) >> |-------------+----------+-------+-----------+--------| >> | Search Term | Adelaide | Perth | Melbourne | Sydney | >> |-------------+----------+-------+-----------+--------| >> | Ruby | 2 | 1 | 27 | 58 | >> | Perl | 4 | 19 | 157 | 312 | > > What? No Smalltalk or Lisp? I did some searches and found zilch for languages like LISP, Lua, Fortran, Prolog, Erlang, Haskell, Smalltalk, Tcl. I forgot Ada and didn't bother with others. Perhaps in the case of non-mainstream languages, job adverts might just list development experience instead. >> Here's a stack of guesses to explore as to why this might be the case: > > Where was "enlightened management"? :-) or perhaps these: - Lack of organisational awareness of high level language benefits. - Organisational resistance to change to new development environments stemming from large amounts of legacy code. - Management's failure to embrace technologies before their use by the late majority or laggards. - Management and staff are influenced by tool vendors &/or the press. - Management's failure to listen to recommendations from their staff. >> - The popular dynamic languages have an interpreter implementation that >> doesn't lend itself to hiding proprietary code from prying eyes. > > I have written an obfuscator/signing module import mechanism for Python, > but ultimately these things are breakable (I've no delusion about how > easily breakable these schemes are :-). It was more of an experiment > with Python's import process than anything else. That's cool. I know that Obsidian (http://www.obsidian.com.au) ship .pyc files with their proprietary Jet billing software (also uses a license key), but they didn't think it was worth the effort. >> I wonder if someone has done a real study on dynamic language >> use for employment. > > I have read something along these lines, but I'm stuffed if I can > remember who what or where the paper was (not so much employment > but definitely use of higher level languages in business). Yes, I did mean to say its use. If you come across the study, send me a link ;-) Chris Foote <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Inetd Pty Ltd T/A HostExpress Web: http://www.hostexpress.com.au Blog: http://www.hostexpress.com.au/drupal/chris Phone: (08) 8410 4566 _______________________________________________ sapug mailing list [email protected] http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/sapug
