Hi,

Next time,

- I suggest don't submit an idea on behalf of a project you're not
  member of

- I suggest don't assume you can mentor a project you don't know, in
  particular I suggest you understand the difference between Savannah
  and Savane, and the amount of non-development work involved in a
  hosting platform.

- When I make every attempt to not scare a student with a big hint
  like "Jordi, we didn't get the chance to summarize your thoughts
  about this, how about doing it now?", I suggest you introduce
  yourself and rectify the miscommunication.

- I suggest you don't scare the student yourself by mailing him "the
  Savannah people think it's worthless" while we're being discussing
  your rogue action - and preferrably, that you don't blame the
  developers about it like you just did.

- and I'm sure everything will go much more smoothly.

In this particular day, one thing you can do is suggest the Savan_nah_
maintainers they stop advertising the Python rewrite if they plan to
contribute something in Perl.

- Sylvain

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 04:35:34PM -0400, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
> I'm unhappy with the recent incident of losing a potential student
> contributor for Google Summer of Code for the Savannah rewrite in
> Python.
> 
> Savane's development is dead. The git logs speak about this clearly.
> The bitrotten webpage with dead links say this too.
> 
> I'm sorry I didn't contact you, but it didn't look like there was
> anyone to contact, since (1) the current mailing list sees almost no
> activity either (2) the webpages are outdated and have broken links
> (3) the git logs are a ghost town, as is the rest of Savane
> development.
> 
> So, if it's dead, please don't scare my potential students away. I use
> Savannah almost daily, and I think it sucks. I could have fixed it
> with a little bit of help, but because someone who isn't maintaining
> the project thinks that it shouldn't be fixed in the way that the
> current unmaintained web page says it should be maintained.
> 
> If you aren't maintaining it, step aside and let someone else do it.

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