Hi Colin,

As you can see the Savannah and Gna! people currently have the
resources to keep these two hosting platforms up and running - but no
more.

There are probably a lot of people full of good intentions but with no
time.  This won't help.

I myself had a vision of progressively moving towards a decentralized
hosting system, but I could not do that alone, searched and found no
volunteers, and eventually involved myself in other free software
actions, so we can say this path is closed now.

If you like the concepts of Savane as it is today, the FusionForge
people did a clean-up/rewrite job very similar to the one that led to
Savane 3, both in code and in project structure, and seems to maintain
some development activity.  A migration script would probably be a
helpful contribution, if one day you find that time you're been
looking for.  Though when it comes to centralized development
platforms, the new trend seems to be user-centric (github/gitorious,
etc.)  rather than project-centric like Savane is.  Not that I
recommend it, but since you're trying to avoid dead ends, you might
want to take it into account :)

- Sylvain

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 08:45:40PM +0000, Turner, Colin wrote:
> My two cents...
> 
> I joined this list and effort just shortly before I went and found myself a 
> different job that offers me very little time to do development. Also, I have 
> a lot more PHP experience than Python, but was willing to try rolling my 
> sleeves up on that if I could find the time.
> 
> I use Savane a lot. I have my own installation, but I agree it was (even 
> then) creaking in places; much of the distributed version 3 required hacks to 
> fix things up.
> 
> I found myself reading the recent messages and wondering whether I should 
> foolishly try to find some time to help - but I really can't afford to 
> contribute to a dead end... so I am in a serious quandary whether to just 
> move my site to FusionForge and having done with it... or trying to see what 
> I can do here.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> CT.
> 
> --
> 
> Dr Colin Turner
> Head of School
> School of Engineering
> University of Ulster
> +44 (0)28 9036 6278
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: savane-dev-boun...@gna.org [savane-dev-boun...@gna.org] on behalf of 
> Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso [jord...@octave.org]
> Sent: 16 April 2012 21:35
> To: savane-dev@gna.org
> Subject: [Savane-dev] Miffed about the status of non-development
> 
> I'm unhappy with the recent incident of losing a potential student
> contributor for Google Summer of Code for the Savannah rewrite in
> Python.
> 
> Savane's development is dead. The git logs speak about this clearly.
> The bitrotten webpage with dead links say this too.
> 
> I'm sorry I didn't contact you, but it didn't look like there was
> anyone to contact, since (1) the current mailing list sees almost no
> activity either (2) the webpages are outdated and have broken links
> (3) the git logs are a ghost town, as is the rest of Savane
> development.
> 
> So, if it's dead, please don't scare my potential students away. I use
> Savannah almost daily, and I think it sucks. I could have fixed it
> with a little bit of help, but because someone who isn't maintaining
> the project thinks that it shouldn't be fixed in the way that the
> current unmaintained web page says it should be maintained.
> 
> If you aren't maintaining it, step aside and let someone else do it.
> 
> - Jordi G. H.

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