Hi, On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 07:19:13PM -0600, Karl Berry wrote: > I suggest "mass mailing". > > Of course. But, as I said, I need the list of projects (if not admins). > Can you send it to me? I had the impression you already generated the > list of problematic projects, since you gave rms numbers of projects in > each problematic category. In any case, I have no reasonable way to > make the list from here on the "outside". > > I have no problem doing the mailing and dealing with the inevitable > replies. > > I'll update savannah.gnu.org/register/ as well as the FAQ right now. > > Excellent, thanks. > > What is expected from you for this job, btw? Does RMS expect you to > supervise this? > > Yes. He asked me to do what I can to keep things moving, and give a > progress report every couple weeks. > > You were Cc:ed on this issue from the beginning but > I don't know really why :) Maybe you had an anterior conversation? > > I can't remember if he wrote me first about this particular issue, but > in general, I am basically his "assistant chief GNUisance" (as he's > referred to me occasionally :) these days. So he sometimes passes off > such things to me. I try to help him where I can with contacting GNU > maintainers, looking at new projects, licensing stuff, etc. Just as in > the case at hand :).
Following is the list of admins, then my initial list of impacted project with some explicit files. I reread that last one and its associated thread and realized I owe you an excuse: it was indeed decided not to bother the existing (few) Savannah non-GNU project about using the GNU GPL for manuals. I confused that and earlier discussion :/ Again, my "(GNU)" remarks in the 2nd list are indicative. I don't think I checked their presence in gnuorg/maintainers and since I only used my memory I surely missed some. Feel free to ask for more information. --Sylvain old-style: ---------- a2ps: [EMAIL PROTECTED] abcsh: [EMAIL PROTECTED] acct: [EMAIL PROTECTED] arc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] archivesfind: [EMAIL PROTECTED] astwar: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] auctex: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] avrdude: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] bashdb: biosconfig: [EMAIL PROTECTED] catalog: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] checker: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] classpath: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] combine: [EMAIL PROTECTED] conta: [EMAIL PROTECTED] customize: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cvs: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] dap: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dejagnu: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dld: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dominion: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] dvipng: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ed: [EMAIL PROTECTED] elisp-code: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] elmo: ff3d: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] fhp: [EMAIL PROTECTED] findutils: [EMAIL 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[EMAIL PROTECTED] openap: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] sather: [EMAIL PROTECTED] texi2latex: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tk707: [EMAIL PROTECTED] voc-get: [EMAIL PROTECTED] xwem: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sun Feb 12 12:57:34 2006 Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 12:57:34 +0100 From: Sylvain Beucler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Richard M. Stallman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Savannah-hackers-private] Documentation licenses Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Operating-System: GNU/Linux User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Status: RO Content-Length: 2687 Lines: 173 ================ On Fri, Feb 10, 2006 at 06:01:47PM -0500, Richard M. Stallman wrote: > As I previously pointed, we cannot know which license people use for > their documentation, on average. > > It should not be hard to do a find/grep to look for certain license > notices in files named *.texi in all the projects. > Would you please give that a try? After using various heuristics to reduce to the number of files to a few hundreds, it appears we have a large part of old-style GNU manual licenses, few GNU GPL, and also unclear or missing notices - with a non-negligeable amount of GNU projects concerned. There's around 4000 texinfo files, with around 700 containing "Free Documentation License, Version X" Lots of files are part of a manual and do not carry explicit notices (I ended up filtering "\input texinfo" to get the main files) Some manuals come under all-permissive licenses. The rest of the manuals should be next: old-style GNU manual license / simple copyleft: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~100 a2ps abcsh acct arc archivesfind astwar auctex (GNU) avrdude bashdb biosconfig catalog checker classpath combine conta customize cvs dap dejagnu dld dominion dvipng ed elisp-code elmo ff3d fhp findutils fontutils freehoo freeipmi freesnell freetalk g-wrap gcl gengetopt gettext ggradebook gluster gnats gnubik gnustep gossip grub gsl guile guile guile-fftw guile-gtk gvpe haplo hardlink heroes hurd hurdextras idutils inetutils jacal jwhois latex-manual lolix lumi m16c macc mcron mifluz mod-guile motti muddleftpd nano oleo pandora patchsource radius scm screen shishi simulavr slib src-highlite stellio stow stumpwm synch texi2html tidydoc tk707 vhdl-posix wb webbase which xboard xlang xlogmaster yyt zebra missing / unclear: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ adsl-at autogen (GNU) - also contains snprintfv which _was_ under old-style GNU bnf cpp-sh dotgnu-pnet edma elgyach enigma flower/flower/texi/flower.texi (mentions both GPL/FDL unclearly) gnubg/gnubg/lib/event.texi gnutrueprint guss/guss/bfd/doc/bfdint.texi hopify hydrant/hydrant/doc/hacking.texi lilypond (lots of files w/o notices) majorteach nana (incomplete old-style GNU) qemacs qemu/qemu/qemu-tech.texi ramemu/ramemu/doc/ramemu.texinfo rottlog solfege tinycc GNU GPL: ~~~~~~~~ alive elisp-code/elisp-code/sml-mode/sml-mode.texi ghostscript/ghostscript/doc/ghostscript.texi (GNU) gv/gv/doc/gv.texi (GNU) hyperbole/hyperbole/man/hyperbole.texi (GNU) jxminor/jxminor/jxminor.texinfo openap/uclibc/ldso/man/ld.so.texi sather (GNU) texi2latex/texi2latex/info/texi2latex.texi tk707/tk707/INSTALL.texi voc-get/voc-get/texinfo/voc-get.texinfo xwem/xwem/doc/xlib/ Don't ask that to me ever again :) _______________________________________________ Savannah-help-public mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/savannah-hackers
