Hi all, 2011/11/8 Karl Subflow <[email protected]> > > The new SHOUTcast DNAS 2.0 is very promising. > and the most important, as you wrote : > > "and Shoutcast remains one of the largest stream directories on the > internet yet they only accept listings from real Shoutcast servers. > ...The fact that their stream directory is > > tightly integrated into WinAmp means that getting listed in their > directory is very valuable to streaming stations."
I've been reading more about this ultravox protocol. Unfortunately, its implementation will never happen in Liquidsoap and here is why: "6.1 Patent License 25 America Online believes it may have certain patent rights that would be applicable to any 26 fully compliant implementation of this Specification. In order to encourage the free and 27 unrestricted development of implementations compliant with this Specification, America 28 Online agrees to provide you with the following Patent License." This is an extract taken from this document: http://hackipedia.org/Protocols/Internet/HTTP/pdf,%20shoutcast/Ultravox%203.0%20protocol%20spec.pdf.raw-conversion.utf-8.txt Apparently, AOL is only interested in commercial streaming business. Although I have nothing against running a streaming business, liquidsoap and savonet are open source projects and, as such, we do not wish to engage any financial responsibility in the work that we are doing. Specifications for the ultravox protocol have apparently been around since at least 2004 but there does not seem to exist a single open-source implementation available, which further indicates that its implementation in non-commercial software is not recommended and/or possible. Even if savonet/liquidsoap developpers were to be given a specific license to implement the protocol, and even if that license was also made available to our users, we would not implement the protocol unless the license would also grant the right to modify and redistribute the protocol or a modified version, which is one of the fundamental rights that has made our work and other's possible in open-source software. Finally, I'd say that this is honestly a shame for AOL, in particular after the VLC yellow page fiasco. The protocol, to my opinion, is quite interesting and could have a good potential for success. However, AOL's obliviousness make it impossible for it to succeed. Personally, I totally understand that shoutcast's yellow pages provide a widely available list of radios. Unfortunately, I think that for us this is a big NO-NO. However, we are working on the Flows project, which we hope could bring something new as a listing service for web-radios. Romain ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ All the data continuously generated in your IT infrastructure contains a definitive record of customers, application performance, security threats, fraudulent activity, and more. Splunk takes this data and makes sense of it. IT sense. And common sense. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-novd2d _______________________________________________ Savonet-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/savonet-users
