Hi,

2011/12/2 Martin Hamant <[email protected]>:
>
>
> Le 01/12/2011 19:24, David Baelde a écrit :
>
>> Hi guys,
>>
>> I listened to the two files. Sometimes I feel like I can hear some
>> artifacts, but it's really slight; I'm not sure I could tell them
>> apart in a blind test. Anyway, I'm no expert in hearing compression
>> artifacts.
>
> I'm no expert either, but I have good hears (I don't say you haven't ;) )
> and I can tell for sure the sound is affected, much more as it should be for
> this bitrate.
> But see below I have done more tests.
>
>
>>
>> I'm not sure where to go from here. It would be interesting to check
>> what parameters really end up being passed to liblame with the two
>> tools. Sometimes, an interface might do some adjustment on parameters
>> to make things sound better.
>
>
>>
>> Otherwise, if you don't want to dig into the source code of audacity
>> (for liquidsoap, you can ask us the details) you can just try to raise
>> a little bit the quality settings.
>>
> The thing is, even exporting with lame parameter -q9 ("Disables almost all
> algorithms including psy-model. Poor quality."), I can't get it as worse as
> the LS's one.
> I would like to find a parameter in lame that would reproduce the noise I
> can hear, but I can't find one to make it worse :D
>
> More seriously, I done some more testing. I tested a compress to 96Kbit/s
> and compared it with the 128Kbit/s from liquidsoap. The conclusion is the
> artefacts I hear in the 96k one is for sure not the kind of the
> artefacts/noise  in LS one.
> the 96k bitrate raise some "birdies" in the sound when the LS file get some
> "noise"/tremolo in low frequencies. HF are not so much affected.
>
> For me, there is little chance that this quality issue to be related to
> libmp3lame. So the question would be, may LS apply some kind of processing
> on the file before or after the encoding step ?

No we don't. Actually, since you are using FLAC as input, you can
assume that PCM data fed to lame is the exact original data.

However, I'v had a look at ocaml-lame parameters and I think this guy,
which we do not use, might be a good candidate:
  http://liquidsoap.fm/modules/ocaml-lame/Lame.html#VALset_quality

I'll patch our HG source to add support for it ASAP and let you know
so you can run your tests against it.

Romain

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